Charnwood Island II owners - throatplate question

ilikecookies

If there's anyone out there in internet land who owns a Charnwood Island II stove could you please let yourself be known!

I have a very specific (and nerdy) question about the throatplate which I'd be grateful for a second opinion on as I'm not sure mine is right!

Thanks for looking!

alleycat`

I think one of the Hetas fitters on here (crphilips) has an island I but i haven't seen him around for a while (i imagine he'll be as busy as can be at this time of year).

Since i'm sure he has one, and he fits them he'll be the guy in the know.

ilikecookies

Thanks for the heads-up - I'll give him a ping!

muckybutt

I have a Charnwood cove II and am also fairy conversant with stoves, whats your problem ?

ilikecookies

Thanks Muckybutt - I shall try to explain. I can post pictures if unclear.

I have both an Island I and and Island II and have noticed a difference in the positioning of the throat plate which strikes me as a little odd.

Imagine you are sat square in front of the stove with the doors open and the throatplate installed. The throatplate is angled and tilts down into a V made by firebricks at the back of the stove.

In my Island I with the throatplate installed there is a 30cm or so gap at the front of the stove between where the throatplate ends and the stove shell begins. As such if you try to look up it you can't see a great deal.

In my Island II this gap is about 60cm. As such if I look up at it you can see very visibly the 'hole' where the flames/heat etc is entering the stove pipe and exiting up the chimney.

As a result if you have wood in the Island II close to the doors there is effectively no throatplate above the wood and so the heat will go straight up the stove pipe.

I was thinking that the throatplate is designed to keep heat in the stove and help deflect it into the room and so if the throatplate is not big enough then I'll be losing more heat up the flue than I need to.

As such I wanted to just check with someone else that there Island II was the same as it seems odd that both the Island I and II look different.

Not sure if I explained that well enough!

muckybutt

Hmmmm the Charnwood site tech info is the same for both stoves so doesnt give any details of dimensions etc, could it be the plate has warped ?

I would give Charnwood a ring asd seek their tech advice

http://www.charnwood.com/parts-lists-and-instructions.aspx

http://www.charnwood.com/contact-us.aspx

Going2getanotherAga

I just posted about this plate on another post. Wasn't aware it was called a throatplate, always called it a cleaning plate. Shame on me.
Not sure whether this will help, but i've had 5 different stoves over the years & never had more than 8mm air space on 2 opposing sides of the plate. As you say - anymore than that & your losing heat & burning fuel quicker than need be!.

w50nky

Going2getanotherAga wrote: »

I just posted about this plate on another post. Wasn't aware it was called a throatplate, always called it a cleaning plate. Shame on me.
Not sure whether this will help, but i've had 5 different stoves over the years & never had more than 8mm air space on 2 opposing sides of the plate. As you say - anymore than that & your losing heat & burning fuel quicker than need be!.

I have always called it a baffle plate...as long as we know what we all mean eh!

Going2getanotherAga

w50nky wrote: »

I have always called it a baffle plate...as long as we know what we all mean eh!

Aye, think i might've heard the sweep fella call it that before now.
I have a daily dose of in one ear & out the other though... so rarely remember anything that isn't making me money.
If it's costing me money then i tend not to want to know at all!.:o

ilikecookies

Checked with Charnwood and apparently this is normal. Apparently the larger "gap" is needed for the airwash in a larger stove.

Thanks to folks for responding.