Teacher strike

Person_one

jackieblack wrote: »

Some of the most conscientious and dedicated teachers I know think of it as flexi-time..... they concede that the 13 weeks holidays probably averages things out somewhat.

By the way, teachers aren't the only professionals who take work home or work during the evenings and weekends (but they are the only ones I know who constantly complain about it )

Who else takes work home as regularly and as much of it as teachers?

Whenever I visit my teacher friends there's always a huge pile of work sitting on the table or in the corner, we frequently have to plan weekend activities around 3 to 8 hours worth of marking. One friend of mine has made the decision to always stay in school after the children leave to get her paperwork finished so that she gets some separation between work and home, she usually leaves with the cleaners at 7pm having been there since 8am.

I wouldn't be a teacher if it paid 100K.

jackieblack

milliebear00001 wrote: »

And yet they've all told you what their plans are for today...

Just the ones who are striking...... it's been the subject of much loud and jovial discussion, no-one within earshot could help but know.

Actually, there are 2 other teachers I know who are striking whose plans I don't know (and don't really care tbh,
as we agree, it is their day off to do with as they wish - I was just pointing out that not all striking teachers are either out demonstrating or sitting at home planning and/or marking as was being implied).

milliebear00001

jackieblack wrote: »

Just the ones who are striking...... it's been the subject of much loud and jovial discussion, no-one within earshot could help but know.

Actually, there are 2 other teachers I know who are striking whose plans I don't know (and don't really care tbh,
as we agree, it is their day off to do with as they wish - I was just pointing out that not all striking teachers are either out demonstrating or sitting at home planning and/or marking as was being implied).

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Gillyx

Person_one wrote: »

I wouldn't be a teacher if it paid 100K.

Would agree with this

Not sure why it's all teacher bashing in this thread, being honest they are one of few public sector jobs who are not over paid for what they do and the hours they put in.

milliebear00001

jackieblack wrote: »

Some of the most conscientious and dedicated teachers I know think of it as flexi-time..... they concede that the 13 weeks holidays probably averages things out somewhat.

By the way, teachers aren't the only professionals who take work home or work during the evenings and weekends (but they are the only ones I know who constantly complain about it )

My 60 hours a week term time averages out to 50 hours a week throught the year. Still more than I did as a middle manager in the private sector, and for less pay and benefits.

lostinrates

Person_one wrote: »

Who else takes work home as regularly and as much of it as teachers?
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My dh. His week off (last year) he worked 35 hours from home. We've had every planned leave bar one cacelled/postponed for the last five years. He is on call all day every day. he has a sleeping bag in his office and a week becomes a heavy week if he works two or more ''all nighters''. However, he chose the job and the employers and could have done a different job for a different wage had he chosen too.

I'd agree my teacher friends, we have some in state and private sector both, work hard. But not as many hours as many others we know in ''better paid'' industries. (note, I say not as many hours, I do not suggest they do not work as hard). In fact we know a fe people who have left law for teaching and enjoy their new lighter work load.

gregg1

meer53 wrote: »

I work in the private sector. I'm going to have to work until i'm 66 instead of 60 and am having to increase my pension contributions if i don't want to be penniless when i eventually retire. Welcome to the real world, we all have to make changes, just get on with it.

The teachers at my daughters school are all leaving as her school is due to close in 2013, who are they thinking of ? not the children, thats for sure. She now has to endure 2 years of supply teachers which i'm not impressed with so far, some don't even turn up. Not all teachers these days are the dedicated professionals they would like us to see them as.

Well you are obviously not happy about the situation you find yourself in, so why would you have a problem understanding why someone in the public sector would not be happy about their situation either? If you are not prepared to stand up for your rights, that's your problem.

lostinrates

gregg1 wrote: »

Well you are obviously not happy about the situation you find yourself in, so why would you have a problem understanding why someone in the public sector would not be happy about their situation either? If you are not prepared to stand up for your rights, that's your problem.

One of the arguments is ''sharing the burden''. I think thats all we can all ask for. This should NOT be all landed on Public sector or low earners,or middle earners.

In not agreeing with everything the public sector are protesting for some private secor workers ARE standing up for their rights!

Person_one

Gillyx wrote: »

Would agree with this

Not sure why it's all teacher bashing in this thread, being honest they are one of few public sector jobs who are not over paid for what they do and the hours they put in.

So which ones are overpaid?

Nurses? Paramedics? HCAs? Teaching Assistant? Social Workers? Jobcentre Staff? Police officers? Firefighters? Traffic Wardens? Binmen? Cleaners? School cooks? Dinnerladies? Lollipop men? Soldiers? The people answering the phones at the tax office or at your local council?

lostinrates

Person_one wrote: »

Soldiers?

Two of my close friends are officers. I do not think their flat rate of pay is overpaid but as they say, its not that where they ''make the money''. One is particular is a huge fan of get you home payments made on all her free weekends...at a rate more than five times the cost of her coming home. The other told me he is having order to buy stuff they don't need becuse they HAVE to spend the money so as not to be awarded less in the future. I here shocking tales of waste of hundreds of thousands from this one guy. Multiplying that across the services could result in a lot better condition for those lower ranking (and shamefully treated on leaving the services) soldiers or a contribution towards the deficit.