Teacher strike

Lotus-eater

walby1993 wrote: »

people assume that teachers think they are better than everyone else.

I don't think anyone assumed it. But it certainly may be close to what teachers themselves claim on here.

WhiteHorse

walby1993 wrote: »

Being as there are a large proportion of kids that can't read, write or count when they start school

The problem is that most of them can't read, write or count when they leave school.

pollypenny

SingleSue wrote: »

My concern is that this is just the start, just like it was in the 80's when my own education was so severely disrupted....I certainly would not like history to repeat itself. QUOTE]


The teachers' action in the 80s was limited to odd half days on strike. I don't remember being off more that 3 half days.

There were no Parents' Evenings, though, something I regretted.

jackieblack

pollypenny wrote: »

There were no Parents' Evenings, though, something I regretted.

I didn't

Starrystarrynight

Slowdown wrote: »

If you think all my job consists of is standing in front of a class of kids you must live in a bubble.

There is absolutely no point in discussing an issue such as this when people have such a narrow minded, skewed view of what really goes on in a school/ classroom.

Your idea that all I do is stand in front of a class of kids is nothing short of insulting.

Perhaps if you to spend some time in a classroom you may understand that we are dedicated professionals devoting our lives and many hours of our own time to educating YOUR children.

I think a lot of people have a skewed idea of what goes on across most of the public sector. In my experience, I don't recognise most of the things they say, or rather they spout with venom!

I find it horribly sad that workers, who should be sticking up for each other while this government is determined to erode our rights, are actually attacking each other.

jackieblack

Starrystarrynight wrote: »

I find it horribly sad that workers, who should be sticking up for each other while this government is determined to erode our rights, are actually attacking each other.

Unfortunately, if one group of workers choose to follow a course of action that has a direct detrimental impact on another group of workers it is unlikely that they will get any support from them, for them to think otherwise just shows how out of touch this first group of people are.

patchwork_cat

I really don't understand this hatred of public sector and the us and them mentality. We are all interlinked, where do people think the public sector spend any wages, who do people think provide the infrastructure to keep the country going.

The politicians are rubbing their hands thinking, yeah divide and conquer.

Rather than saying welcome to the real world rhetoric, we should all be making sure we have adequate provision for our retirement which is getting ever shorter for us all! To the private sector employees complaining about working longer that is countrywide, not private or public, EVERYONE and it is ridiculous.

jackieblack

patchwork_cat wrote: »

I really don't understand this hatred of public sector and the us and them mentality. We are all interlinked, where do people think the public sector spend any wages, who do people think provide the infrastructure to keep the country going.

The politicians are rubbing their hands thinking, yeah divide and conquer.

I don't care whether anyone works in the public or private sector. I am more interested in what they do, what they say, and their attitude to others than who they are employed by.

jackieblack

patchwork_cat wrote: »

Rather than saying welcome to the real world rhetoric, we should all be making sure we have adequate provision for our retirement which is getting ever shorter for us all!

No it's not!
People living longer and therefore drawing their pensions for far longer than ever before, even if the age of retirement is extended, is part of the problem!

lostinrates

patchwork_cat wrote: »

I really don't understand this hatred of public sector and the us and them mentality. We are all interlinked, where do people think the public sector spend any wages, who do people think provide the infrastructure to keep the country going.

The politicians are rubbing their hands thinking, yeah divide and conquer.

Rather than saying welcome to the real world rhetoric, we should all be making sure we have adequate provision for our retirement which is getting ever shorter for us all! To the private sector employees complaining about working longer that is countrywide, not private or public, EVERYONE and it is ridiculous.

Retirement is longer isn't it? As we live longer?

Personally, despite supportig the proposed changes I do not hte the public sector. I feel you are RIGHT and the burden should be equally shared...retirement age, pension provision. I'd also support people being in control of their own pension funds if they so chose. I agree we have to ensure we all make adaquate provision for ourselves above the basic state provision.

While public sector work is INVALUABLE for infrastructure, as you say, that doesn't mean private sector isn't valuable either, for generating new funds and business to keep the system trickle fed.

I think the issue is EXACTLY that the burden should be spread in a more uniform manner across BOTH sectors, and people able to take more responsibility for them selves over the decisions, rights and responsibilities of beng self provident.

I believe it to be a misconception that being pro changes (across the board) is necessarily being anti public sector.