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No contact from landlady - boiler certificate expired
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As a LL I'm fully aware that this needs to be done and is organised by the lettings agency every year.
My advice was for the tenant, not a tool like you.
My advice was also based on the fact that the LL is not UK resident, and practicalities take precedence over law.
Lastly, stop giving rubbish advice, not paying the rent is the quickest way to get a tenant evicted even if they are legally in the right.
Do NOT forget, that the LL owns the property and if they, for ANY reason decide that the tenant is unsuitable or becoming a problem, then they can hand in the notice to the tenant.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing... Oh and it's not tbs who has little knowledge..."One thing that is different, and has changed here, is the self-absorption, not just greed. Everybody is in a hurry now and there is a 'the rules don't apply to me' sort of thing." - Bill Bryson0 -
Unfortunately she is not doing it properly - the law is clear on these matters, you must have a E&W address for her and she should have a nominated agent
I think that for tax purpose, none of the above is absolutely necessary.
Though obviously, managing a property from abroad is near impossible in practical terms...minuettoallegretto wrote: »I still maintain it's not my business - it's her property, her money, her responsibility.
The thing is: It could be your responsibility.
If she did not apply to HMRC to receive the rent without tax deductions, you are responsible from deducting taxes and paying them to HMRC.0 -
Lastly, stop giving rubbish advice, not paying the rent is the quickest way to get a tenant evicted even if they are legally in the right.
Do NOT forget, that the LL owns the property and if they, for ANY reason decide that the tenant is unsuitable or becoming a problem, then they can hand in the notice to the tenant.
The law states, no address for LL in England/Wales, no rent due!
I would be very surprised if a LL who is based so far away from the UK, with a loyal and reliable tenant of 9 years, would simply issue notice immediately rent was late/missing. Would LL really want the cost and hassle of losing a good tenant, and reletting to someone they do not know who may turn out (to use RH's phase) to be a "tool"?
Road Hog - please refrain from insulting members here. You obviously do not fully understand the rules and regs of letting as a non resident LL. We are not telling tenant to stop paying, just withold the rent to a) prompt the LL into contactng them, and b) prompt the LL to comply with their legal requirements. In fact, if there are repairing obligations that the LL is lacking, the tenant can follow the procedure to get repairs done and deduct from rent due anyway.
There is no need to be aggressive and rude to other members. Grow up a little and people here may value your contributions, but behaving like a spoiled child when people disagree with you just makes you look silly and unprofessional!0 -
As a LL I'm fully aware that this needs to be done and is organised by the lettings agency every year.
My advice was for the tenant, not a tool like you.
My advice was also based on the fact that the LL is not UK resident, and practicalities take precedence over law.
Lastly, stop giving rubbish advice, not paying the rent is the quickest way to get a tenant evicted even if they are legally in the right.
Do NOT forget, that the LL owns the property and if they, for ANY reason decide that the tenant is unsuitable or becoming a problem, then they can hand in the notice to the tenant.
minuettoallegretto, please withdraw your thanks to this post. tbs has good credentials on tenancy law. Road-Hog on the other hand seems to be sounding bum notes on this thread as well as at least one other at the moment.
While withholding rent does present some risk of upsetting the landlord, it is a legitimate means of getting their attention if all else fails. The situation is that if the LL does not provide an address in E&W, the rent is still owed, but you are not obliged to pay it until you get an address for serving notices. So you should keep the money to one side. If you do withhold, you need to send letters and communications by all possible means, keeping copies and stating that rent is being put to one side and will be paid as soon as an address is available.
Road-Hog's other bum note on this thread concerns the question of who pays income tax. That has been roundly dealt with.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
Honestly OP, I really think you need to realise the serious nature of not knowing about the tax arrangements as JJlandlord and many others have pointed out. Whether or not you are old long term friend, it is YOUR business to protect yourself from tax evasion by proxy...for want of a better term! Please look into this, ignorance is bliss but if I were in your shoes I'd want to make sure that I was not party to something that could leave me in trouble.:A
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How would a tenant know that the Landlord was not paying tax?
With the data protection act and all that.
How can the tenant withhold the rent if it's paid by HB?0 -
nikki_angel wrote: »...ignorance is bliss...
but not a valid defence to HMRC. So you might get stung for the tax regardless.
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securityman wrote: »How would a tenant know that the Landlord was not paying tax?
With the data protection act and all that.
How can the tenant withhold the rent if it's paid by HB?
They ask the LL whether they are aware of the tax implications of letting a property in the UK, whilst living abroad, and draw thei attention to the link within earlier posts here, about how HMRC collects rental income tax from non-UK resident LLs.
They keep the HB payment and do not pass it on the the LL, but retain it so that they can pay when the LL provides the address.0 -
They ask the LL whether they are aware of the tax implications of letting a property in the UK, whilst living abroad, and draw thei attention to the link within earlier posts here, about how HMRC collects rental income tax from non-UK resident LLs.
How about if the landlord say they are aware of there tax implication, but then are still not paying it. How would the tenant know?
So the tenant is a non paid tax collector and inspector.
I think that job should be up to the people paid to do it.0 -
securityman wrote: »How about if the landlord say they are aware of there tax implication, but then are still not paying it. How would the tenant know?
Imo, T should ask LL for the HMRC-issued document stating that he is exempt of deduction and can receive the rent gross.
If LL cannot produce such document, T should seek advice from HMRC and deduct taxes from rent.0
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