Ex Motability vechicle? Good 2nd hand buy

Poppycat

Thanks I had a look the other day

We do have a car at mo but its costing us so much to keep going and beginning to think why bother, I paid 3.5k for it last July spent about £500+ on keep it maintained and rust is coming through despite keep car well maintained, wash every week and wax every couple of months

The car we use for all of us, but if we get a mobility car I think we can only use it for my daughter who gets the DLA.

Example went to get some paint just this morning, I bet they will only allow us to sue car for taking her or getting errands for her

I know the blue badge is like that and rightly so, also is there a mileage allowance?

woody65 wrote: »

Have a look on the Motability website, http://www.motability.co.uk it tells you all you need to know about what vehicles are available and what the payments are. There are hundreds to choose from with no deposit, although almost all will require the full Mobility element of DLA, around £45 per week I believe. Once you have the vehicle, all you pay for is fuel, unless you have a claim, in shich case you still have to pay an excess, though this can be as low as £75. (Waived if a 3rd party is shown at fault)
I am a beneficiary of the scheeme and could not recommend it high enough.

cyclonebri1

As said before, I don't think there is any real indication that anyone who is given a disability car is likely to mistreat it.
Firstly, they are not given it, which all but a couple of idiots posting/mentioned so far, realise. They could actually use the money elsewhere, or maybe the odd person doesn't/can't comprehend that? They are in the minority.

Given that a disabled person is a little more "steady" than your average boy racer or company car driver, which do you think would be most likely to mistreat a car given free servicing/maintenance/tyres etc?

I can only go by the cars I have known and the cars presented at the auctions I have attended, but the trade seem to lap them up, the general consensus being that they have been well looked after and have had an easy life.

Just my view you understand.

beenrippedoff

Does anyone know what happens with a Motability vehicle after an accident. I have bought one, 3 weeks ago 8000miles 3 yrs old, mint manual gearbox, from a main Ford dealer with an accident free history HPI history. 2 weeks later a car ran into the back whilst I was stationary (guys foot slipped off clutch while he was stationary), bumper cracked and !!!!! rear nearside door window broke. Window repair chappie said door was warped from a previous bang, hmm strange I thought. Car insurer took car away for repair, after 2 days rang to say they were not paying for rectification of previous repaired damage that had not been fixed properly, namely the rear door, re-alignment for the replaced tailgate and incorrect fitted rear screen, Hmmmmm even more strange.

repairers then rang and said it had been hit to left of centre at about 40mph, and would have beeen a cat D insurance job, They then said it must be an ex-motability car as motability have their own private repairers for big jobs to keep off the HPI/Experian register, Can anyone confirm this. if true then the main dealer must be aware that this goes on.

Went to main dealer and they said they would never have sold a car with that amount of damage and would like to see for themselves on return from repairer, stating that if true they would exchange car- bit odd for them to give up without a fight-.

Anyway any thoughts most welcome.

harveybobbles

MFL system:

Car is offered to the original selling dealer at month 34 of the 36 month contract.
OSD either have the car or refuse it and it gets offered to other Franchise.
They either have it or refuse it and it gets offered to dealers like us who, buy it online from their system. If we don't then they get trucked off and sold thru auction.

MFL do do some !!!!!! repairs!

Just 'cos a car has had a bump doesnt not mean that it's been written off.

If the cost of repairing it was say £2000 and the car was worth £5000 then it gets repaired and stays away from the Hit list.

As for your comment about them giving up without a fight, we, as a dealer have the right to chuck a car back to MFL if it falls below standard. So if they are willing to take it off you, then they will too insist that MFL take it back off them.

They get described to us as "Gold" or "Platinum"

Gold means very good condition with little bits of DIY to bring them upto standard.

Platinum means they are spit mint!!

So when the car comes and its had more hits than the Beatles - we can refuse it and send it back.

cyclonebri1

beenrippedoff wrote: »

Does anyone know what happens with a Motability vehicle after an accident. I have bought one, 3 weeks ago 8000miles 3 yrs old, mint manual gearbox, from a main Ford dealer with an accident free history HPI history. 2 weeks later a car ran into the back whilst I was stationary (guys foot slipped off clutch while he was stationary), bumper cracked and !!!!! rear nearside door window broke. Window repair chappie said door was warped from a previous bang, hmm strange I thought. Car insurer took car away for repair, after 2 days rang to say they were not paying for rectification of previous repaired damage that had not been fixed properly, namely the rear door, re-alignment for the replaced tailgate and incorrect fitted rear screen, Hmmmmm even more strange.

repairers then rang and said it had been hit to left of centre at about 40mph, and would have beeen a cat D insurance job, They then said it must be an ex-motability car as motability have their own private repairers for big jobs to keep off the HPI/Experian register, Can anyone confirm this. if true then the main dealer must be aware that this goes on.

Went to main dealer and they said they would never have sold a car with that amount of damage and would like to see for themselves on return from repairer, stating that if true they would exchange car- bit odd for them to give up without a fight-.

Anyway any thoughts most welcome.

Very interesting, but on a different ins system? how?

beenrippedoff

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Very interesting, but on a different ins system? how?

Sorry should have added above that the bodyshop told me that Moto.. pay for any major stuff themselves direct and do not use any insurance company. Also that the rear door and nearside back left wing and roofline above rear quarterlight (ford focus) had all been re-sprayed but that part of the job was good, feel like I've been right mugged.

beenrippedoff

harveybobbles wrote: »

MFL system:

If we don't then they get trucked off and sold thru auction.

MFL do do some !!!!!! repairs!

Just 'cos a car has had a bump doesnt not mean that it's been written off.

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Update, car was sold thru auction, dealer now says its not cat D, so refuse money back, now found out car has had new spare wheel well/boot floor pan as well. Said they can sell a car with replaced front wings, bonnet, doors and tailgate and theres nothing a punter can do about it if its not the hit list.

doh

cyclonebri1

beenrippedoff wrote: »

Update, car was sold thru auction, dealer now says its not cat D, so refuse money back, now found out car has had new spare wheel well/boot floor pan as well. Said they can sell a car with replaced front wings, bonnet, doors and tailgate and theres nothing a punter can do about it if its not the hit list.

doh

Jeeez,:eek: thats not good, plus they seem to know where they stand.

Hopefully someone may know better???


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"Went to main dealer and they said they would never have sold a car with that amount of damage and would like to see for themselves on return from repairer, stating that if true they would exchange car- bit odd for them to give up without a fight-."

Just reread what you said before and it seems they have done an about turn on you?

beenrippedoff

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Jeeez,:eek: thats not good, plus they seem to know where they stand.

Hopefully someone may know better???



Just reread what you said before and it seems they have done an about turn on you?

Yup, as its not ahitlist. Going back again today to have another go on misreoresentation, then say I'm going to park up with a big sign saying how they ripped me off.

Krackerjack

OMG, I really can't believe the twaddle that has been put up on this thread re ex motability cars................ where to begin?

OK I have a lease car through Motability and although there are some abusers of the scheme and indeed the vehicles, I think that you will find that the majority of those on the scheme know just how fortunate they are to have access to a new vehicle every three years and look after them accordingly, oh yes and while we are at it, it's not a 'free' scheme as some would have you believe, it is paid by in many cases a significant advance payment and them actually paying for the lease by a very difficult to gain, even when you are in a bad way health wise, to obtain benefit. (lets take the scroungers and moochers who can work these systems out of the equation please).

Now, some facts quoting from some rather uninformed and/or quite frankly ignorant and in some cases insulting posts.

"You may want to check the wear on the rear suspension what with the extra weight of the wheelchair, ramps and other modifications needed" ……….Because every disabled person needs these right? And anyway, these devices/aids will hardly overload a modern car's suspension will they.

"A friend used to dabble in car sales and said motability vehicles often had worn/collapsed seat springs because the drivers were often obese. As well as the door hinges mentioned, the steering column and tilt bearings might be worth checking quickly too, just lean on the wheel in a few directions."………. I suspect dabble was the right term here, what a load of unsubstantiated tosh. Disabled now obviously means in need of a wheelchair, ramps and other modifications and that you will be overweight? Hmm.

Please tell me how these examples are exclusive to motability vehicles?

"It would appear that if you are in receipt of the higher level allowance and have used that to source a vehicle. The vehicle is yours for three years regardless of if your condition/disability improves."………. Ehhhh, no, not quite because if your disability improves you are legally obliged to inform the DWP who will re-assess your benefit, if you drop down to anything other than the higher rate of the mobility allowance you do not qualify for the vehicle.

"often they were not modified at all as not all are used for 'disabled' drivers, they could often be dirty inside and often smelt of dogs."………. I am only able to walk very short distances and even then need crutches so am definitely classed as disabled, or, if you want less able, but despite being [‘disabled’] as this poster says,(I suspect what they mean is that if you need no aids than you aren’t disabled, (grow up!), I have no aids fitted to my car, I don't need them modern cars are quite easy to operate even with substantial muscle wastage, it’s not all like the 60s ya know. Also, although disabled I do not smell of dogs, (or any other animal for that matter), nether when my disabilities progressed to where they are, did I automatically go out and by a pack of dogs. My perfectly able bodies neighbour on the other hand has several, I suspect his non MFL car does smell of dogs.

I'm going to stop there, probably said enough. When my last two Motability cars were handed back, with avge miles, the dealer was reluctant to have them sent off for auction, he wanted them on his forecourt such was their condition, on handing back my last one he stated it would be the best example of that particular model on the forecourt if he could get it.

As many of the more pragmatic posters have alluded to, irrespective if it is a Motability car or otherwise, people assign different values to things and treat them accordingly, ever gone house hunting?

As with buying any car, caveat emptor, you need to look closely and make your own judgment based on your standards, one thing for sure is that if you get a good one, it will be just that and with any luck at a bargain price.

Some funny old perceptions of us disabled bods, if nothing else this post has shown that in abundance.