Stuck in a massive rut. Some really good advice would be useful.

Driver8

To the OP, i hope you never get work or benefits again, why?

You said you "worked" for a private parking company ripping people off for years with scam invoices and intimidation, now, and now you dare come on here because you feel your employers were threatening to you !

What the hell do you think YOU have been doing for years whilst, as you say, the money was good. Karma as worked in your case.

You worked for and deserve what is happening to you, you did it to others for years as you say, and the MONEY was good, not now is it? Tough.

wantsajob

Driver8 wrote: »

To the OP, i hope you never get work or benefits again, why?

To be fair many people end up in such jobs without knowing exactly what the job entails. And many people will perform minor tasks that make up part of an evil empire. For example, do you think those who are involved in the manufacture of cigarettes have moral pangs when they hear about people dying of lung cancer? It's a process Psychologists would call "Diffusion of responsibility" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility Of course this is just one of the many social-cognitive psychological processes that may be acting upon someone entering such a job. For example, might this happen from their perspective? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaming_the_victim

Most jobs out there involve screwing someone over to some degree, simply because we live in a greedy capitalist society - for example energy sales where to do well you have to be pretty much wallet raping people in the street. Any job is far better than benefits or £0. The capitalist society we live in is evil, not the jobs themselves.

Driver8

wantsajob wrote: »

To be fair many people end up in such jobs without knowing exactly what the job entails. And many people will perform minor tasks that make up part of an evil empire. For example, do you think those who are involved in the manufacture of cigarettes have moral pangs when they hear about people dying of lung cancer? It's a process Psychologists would call "Diffusion of responsibility" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility Of course this is just one of the many social-cognitive psychological processes that may be acting upon someone entering such a job. For example, might this happen from their perspective? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaming_the_victim

Most jobs out there involve screwing someone over to some degree, simply because we live in a greedy capitalist society - for example energy sales where to do well you have to be pretty much wallet raping people in the street. Any job is far better than benefits or £0. The capitalist society we live in is evil, not the jobs themselves.

Don't give me any Psychobabble, if people had more integrity in themselves they wouldn't do the job, I stand by what i say.


Cigarettes have never ever been proved to cause cancer, wikipedia that as well.

TrickyWicky

Yorkie1 wrote: »

the voluntary work suggestion which you've completely ignored.

I've not ignored it actually. I've been taking that very seriously but when I got in touch with the local volunteering co-ordinater a few months back I got the cold shoulder - despite having done volunteering previously for them years ago. Another charity I wanted to help (RSPCA) refused to accept more help because they'd got a waiting list. Freaky.

Driver8 wrote: »

To the OP, i hope you never get work or benefits again, why?

You said you "worked" for a private parking company ripping people off for years with scam invoices and intimidation, now, and now you dare come on here because you feel your employers were threatening to you !

What the hell do you think YOU have been doing for years whilst, as you say, the money was good. Karma as worked in your case.

You worked for and deserve what is happening to you, you did it to others for years as you say, and the MONEY was good, not now is it? Tough.

So you would rather i sat on my !!!!! or would you prefer I got out there and did something to keep myself independant? I never wanted to work in parking. I was roped into it and from there onwards its the only f*ck*ng industry that you can move about in.

Not once did I claim I'd issued tickets for PPCs, sent invoices or got involved with any of their scam but of course you go ahead and jump to your conclusion. There is a lot more to a PPC than just tickets, sure a large part of it may be ticketing but not everything. They do all sorts of other things that you're clearly not intelligent enough to think about. I DID however say I've had people suggest I setup my own PPC and that I hated the very thought of setting up a company in the industry that makes me cringe.

I have integrity, thats why I walked but let me ask you something driver8: Which would you prefer to be out there issuing tickets?:

1. The power mad who want to wage war on every motorist in the land issuing as many tickets as possible
2. A decent honest person who does an honest job and hands out the odd ticket where forced (EG blocking your residential parking)?

You clearly think they're all number 1. Get over yourself.. go give the taxman some stick instead. From your nickname you're probably a driver for a living.. sitting on your lazy ****

victor2

TrickyWicky wrote: »

I've not ignored it actually. I've been taking that very seriously but when I got in touch with the local volunteering co-ordinater a few months back I got the cold shoulder - despite having done volunteering previously for them years ago. Another charity I wanted to help (RSPCA) refused to accept more help because they'd got a waiting list. Freaky.

It just took you a while to acknowledge the suggestions about volunteering.
I spent the best part of a year (as a volunteer) helping out with a volunteer co-ordinator for a few hours a week. In my experience, they try to identify areas where a potential volunteer could be utilised. Some people are very easy to place, others can be more of a challenge.
Ask yourself why you got the cold shoulder. If it's a few months since you last contacted them, maybe it's worth another attempt, with a more open approach?
Some organisations do actually have enough volunteers or lack the staff to train and supervise them. You don't have to go through a volunteer co-ordinator. Look on do-it.org, find something local that you're interested in and contact them through the site. You may still end up with the same co-ordinator, but at least you'll have a specific position that you're interested in.

Like any job, they'll require a reference or two, so have some contacts lined up for that. Some positions require a CRB check, but the organisations usually pay for that themselves.

paddyrg

TrickyWicky wrote: »

@paddyrg: There are none around here otherwise it sounds like a good idea.

They are residential - they get you out of a rut altogether, whole fresh start. And they are all over the coast, so head North, East, West, South, wherever you fancy.

dandelionclock30

Sometimes with volunteering you have to be quite proactive and keep chasing the places up.Like the others have said the options are 1)The volunteering centre if your town has one. 2) Do it. org, 3)Contact the places direct. Persistance is the key and choosing something you really want to do.
I know a lot of people who have got jobs through volunteering and plenty of people who also havent for various reasons.I think the competition for jobs now is so intense that everyone is struggeling.However, if you have the experience and the reference to support it you are in a stronger position than someone whos been doing nothing for the past how long.It looks good on your C.V and is as relevant as paid work and it goes down well with employers.Plus you are meeting people, having a laugh, and getting your lunch and bus fares paid! Also some volunteering places will send you on free training etc!

Emmzi

Your entire replies are full of

"yes, but..." then an excuse.

What exactly do you expect people to suggest if you have no tenacity or drive?

TrickyWicky

Emmzi wrote: »

"yes, but..." then an excuse.

No, (though clearly you think you know my situation inside out) they're not excuses, (though admittedly they do sound like it to a stranger).

I have health problems which limit me physically. As I've already said, I'm not prepared to divulge them publicly due to ex employers trolling these boards so you'll either have to believe me or not. I wouldn't be here asking in the first place if I wasn't in a bad situation would I.

Emmzi

I'm not disputing that your illnesses are genuine but there's around a dozen people made suggestions and for every one of them you've said "i've tried but.." or "but that won't work."

If you want a game of "ooh ain't it awful" then fine, but stop pretending you want help.

if you do want help then you have to actively engage in thinking about how to overcome problems, not just rejecting every idea.

If your disabilities are that bad I hope you are seeing the disability advisor at the JC ?