Bathroom refurbm,what to do first? Plaster or new suite?

Leif

karl-123 wrote: »

its messy but plasterboard on top of plasterboard is a NO NO

Do you mean over-boarding is a no no?

misa.blue

Guys thank you so very much for your advise! You are stars!!

Originally Posted by karl-123
its messy but plasterboard on top of plasterboard is a NO NO

Karl is the ceiling going to fall you recon?

Leif

misa.blue wrote: »

Guys thank you so very much for your advise! You are stars!!

Originally Posted by karl-123
its messy but plasterboard on top of plasterboard is a NO NO

Karl is the ceiling going to fall you recon?

I asked Karl to clarify because screwing plasterboard onto an existing ceiling is standard practice, and much less messy than taking down the original ceiling. Plus you get a slightly more rigid ceiling which cannot be bad.

misa.blue

Hi guys, have another question please.
When tiling above the bath, do you fit bath in first and then tile or do you tile and then put the bath in?
We need to reverse the drain at the bath, so might need to raise it a bit, so worried we will not be able to judge the height of the bath.

rustyboy21

misa.blue wrote: »

Hi guys, have another question please.
When tiling above the bath, do you fit bath in first and then tile or do you tile and then put the bath in?
We need to reverse the drain at the bath, so might need to raise it a bit, so worried we will not be able to judge the height of the bath.

When I had work done in my house I was fortunate to have 2 bathrooms, as the victorian design house I have had been made into 2 flats ( 2 kitchens,2 bathrooms etc )

The way mine was done was as follows, upstairs one frst

everything stripped out to brickwork
walls plasterboarded
timber to hold suspended upvc ceiling put in( old ceilings too high and messy)
floor levelled
bath in
loo in
sink in
then floor to ceiling tiles
then floor tiles
then ceiling and spots

Only took them 3 days, 2 lads and then 2 tilers room was about 10' x 8' did a really good job, would recommend them to anyone, as long as you live in Lancs area, they will fit anywhere. Thy have been known to fit in Leics and London too, but only quiet time of year

rustyboy21

Hintza wrote: »

Instead of tiling think about Selkie Board, Bushboard or Wetwall.

We choose mainly Selkie Board but got Bushboard Nuance (double the price of Selkie).

I was slighty concerened it would look a little industrial but we are very pleased, easy to clean and no grout to go mouldy.

http://www.rearo.co.uk/domestic/selkie-board/selkie-colour-selector-sample-request


http://bushboard.co.uk/range.asp?range=nuance

I have bushboard or similar in my downstairs quadrant shower cubicle, it is lovely, went for a sandstone finish,. Been in over 2 years, gets scrubbed down with cream cleanser and sponge/scourer every now and again to get any soap scum off and still looks brand new.

The ceilings are done in the UPVC type strips that look like floor boards but fit together with aluminium strips inbetween, with spots, so much brighter and clean it with a damp cloth over a brush head once in a while.

All with a 21 jet airspa bath and underwater lighting, which I didn't order, but was thrown in as a surprise by friend who's company did it for me. Fill the bath up, candles going, spa running, so relaxing after a hard day at work !

misa.blue

rustyboy21 wrote: »

I have bushboard or similar in my downstairs quadrant shower cubicle, it is lovely, went for a sandstone finish,. Been in over 2 years, gets scrubbed down with cream cleanser and sponge/scourer every now and again to get any soap scum off and still looks brand new.

Guys what is average price for these? can't see it on the website?

karl-123

fitting the bath first and then tiling is normal practice,
you can patch the ceiling,
and pva and reskim the lot,
but reinforce the patched plasterboard,
by fitting cross timbers above to support it well,
ie,.......fit noggings........
or a couple of short lengths of 4x1 laid flat, above to tie,
the two together,
if in doubt allways ask,

you do not need to take the forums advice,:j

but its nice to read another prespective,
good luck,

karl-123

tile from the centre out with either a tile either side, or one on your centre line,
a three quarter tile is better than a quarter at the ends,
a full tile on the bath is a bit of a rule,
once fitted seal the bath with silicon against the edges,force it in with finger do not cut yourself,
once set tile the bath and silicon again but use masking tape 5mm on bath 5mm on tiles,with a soapy finger,
remove masking tape straight away,lay the first course of tiles around the bath on hardboard or thin plastic strips,
to form a gap, let your first course set, first and make sure it is perfectly level,absolutely bang on,
use good straight timber if you are doing other walls,tiling battens they are called,allways but allways plan ahead,before ploughing in,

buy wall tile spacers but do not lay them flat,push them in sideways,use them as props,
use cut cereal boxes for increased grout widths,... comb adhesive tight to the wall,and tile tight to the wall,
tiles are baked in an oven even the best of them differ slightly in size,when tiling a big area i constantly check,horizontally and vertically with a stabila spirit level,i own 8ft 4ft 2ft and 1ft levels,a good tiler looks back at the tiles,pictures a chess board,and moves the tiles accordingly,with a crowsfoot shaped hand,pressing firmly only if required,till near perfection is acheived,a good tiler allways views the job as a whole,bye.

rustyboy21

misa.blue wrote: »

Guys what is average price for these? can't see it on the website?

Found out my shower cubicle is done in wetwall panelling, Byzantine marble effect. It is lovely stuff.

I think my friend who did the work said it was comparable with tiles, but tiling may work out slightly cheaper that it for the whole bathroom.

Link to wetwall prices and sheet size.

http://www.bathroomshopuk.com/shop/cat,Wetwall%20Panelling%20Systems/cID,281
Hope it helps