landlord refusing to fix our oven.

simond224

Googlies wrote: »

You were "sold" a flat with a working cooker, that's what you are entitled to, its the landlords responsibility.

thats exactly what i thought... i think ill give citezens advice a call or drop into them on monday and see what they say... i just dont need the expensive repair and the arguing this close to christmas :mad: to top it all off my little boy is in hospital with bronchilitus so me and the missus are getting no sleep ... anyway time to think possative lol

simon

pararct

Is the cooker/oven mentioned at all in your tenancy agreement? Do you have a copy of or had sight of the annual gas appliance test certificate? All landlords are required by law to have gas appliances inspected by a qualified person annually.
Even if you were to go down the road of sourcing and paying for the install of another gas cooker (it, of course would be installed by a suitably qualified person and certificated) the LL would require a copy of the (potentially yours) certificate to strictly comply with the law.

End of the day it will come down to what it says in your tenancy agreement. If there is no mention of a cooker, you took the flat as unfurnished and the existing model is floor standing (not built in) then it probably is your responsibility to either repair or replace. (if you want a working cooker).

simond224

pararct wrote: »

Is the cooker/oven mentioned at all in your tenancy agreement? Do you have a copy of or had sight of the annual gas appliance test certificate? All landlords are required by law to have gas appliances inspected by a qualified person annually.
Even if you were to go down the road of sourcing and paying for the install of another gas cooker (it, of course would be installed by a suitably qualified person and certificated) the LL would require a copy of the (potentially yours) certificate to strictly comply with the law.

End of the day it will come down to what it says in your tenancy agreement. If there is no mention of a cooker, you took the flat as unfurnished and the existing model is floor standing (not built in) then it probably is your responsibility to either repair or replace. (if you want a working cooker).

kool ill have a look for the tennancy agreement when i get home from work ... and yes ive seen the gas appliance test certificate, but its in our file in the lettings agents office. i have a funny feeling that even if it is the landlords responsibility he will find a way to get out of fixing it

Yorkie1

Legally you must have the tenant's copy of the gas safety certificate so ask for it.

Check whether the inventory or tenancy mention cooker.

Make sure you put everything in writing. For the damp, ensure you mention that as instructed by the LL you replastered but that the damp has returned - therefore the source of the damp has not been rectified and will need to be dealt with.

Apart from the damp issue, so long as the rest of the bathroom isn't structurally / electrically dangerous, there is no requirement for him to upgrade it from the current botch job.

jjlandlord

What does the tenancy agreement say about such repairs?
LL has no statutory obligation to repair white goods.

homelessskilledworker

If BTL is here to stay, and I have my suspicions that the British people don't on the whole. Then regulation need bringing up to date and into the 21st century. For anyone that does want to get a little pro active then what the internet is screaming for is a site on rouge and dishonest landlords, and there are a lot out there. Maybe something like mylandlordisac**t.com would give many somewhere to turn if they are being walked all over.

pararct

I see two problems here.

One is clearly the Unserviceable cooker, the other will be where to store it if the OP decides to purchase their own! Of course in this scenario the OP removes their cooker when they leave.

Not all rentals lend themselves to sufficient space to store a cooker!

OP are you in the habit of renting unfurnished? Have you started to amass your own furniture ect? If this is the case it may be worth taking the plunge and buying your own. Only downside is will the LL allow you to dispose of the knackered cooker, as clearly you don't want to store it.

Mind you if it is not mentioned on the inventory is there any obligation to keep what is clearly knackered white goods? If it is then one would assume a small part of your rent paid is to enjoy using this cooker for what it was intended, so there is an obligation to repair.

Will the LL be reasonable and allow you to get rid of it?

jjlandlord

If the cooker is broken and unserviceable, LL has an obligation to replace it, though (if listed on inventory as in working order).

simond224

still havnt had a chance to look at the tenancy agreement folks... went from work to the hospital and then from there to bed and now am at work for 12 hours... AGAIN but tomorrow is my day off so its gunna be the get things done day!! but thanks for all your advice, and to "homelessskilledworker" that website would be a good idea Dodgeylandlords.com LOL