Would this put you off applying?

KiKi

sho_me_da_money wrote: »

I bet you feel discouraged by Michael Jackson for saying "If you wanna be my baby it dont matter if your black or white".

I get the feeling the OP would feel more discouraged if he'd sung "If you wanna be my baby I particularly welcome come ons from women in ethnic minority groups".

KiKi

getmore4less

You could try the double application

Near identical, one with van de graph and the other john smith

persa

LisaB85 wrote: »

I'm a straight white female, I feel discouraged from applying because it sounds like they want to employ from ethnic minorities and would judge me because I'm not.

Take heart, if they've written something like that in the job ad, they must have a HR department and thus have some kind of policies to treat everyone fairly and comply with employment legislation.

They won't discriminate against any minorities, yes, which although great, doesn't help you. However, if they are the kind of employer who does things by the book (the job ad suggests that), equally, they won't take one look at you and go "you look of child bearing age, no job for you in case you run off on maternity, demand flexible hours and keep calling in sick because your kids have a sniffle."

Could be good news for you after all! Put in an application and see what happens. You never know, this job could end up being the one. Best of luck.

SilverCloud_2

Why on earth would you be discouraged?

I think youve misunderstood that statement as meaning they will choose a minority over a majority individual for the job. That's not what the statement means at all. I guess its just to make it clear they are an employer who takes employment laws seriously, including equality laws, surely thats a good sign? You want an employer who knows they need to act within the law.

Jarndyce

Bear in mind that if you are lucky enough to get an interview for this job, you will be expected to demonstrate an unsderstanding of equal opportunities policies. On the evidence of this question, you may have some difficulty there.

cr1mson

Jarndyce wrote: »

Bear in mind that if you are lucky enough to get an interview for this job, you will be expected to demonstrate an unsderstanding of equal opportunities policies. On the evidence of this question, you may have some difficulty there.

Totally agree with this and Silvercloud. Why on enough would this put you off?

C

cr1mson

WhiteHorse wrote: »

You are correct.


It's illegal. However, the law will not be enforced.

Could you cite the applicable law?

C

WhiteHorse

SilverCloud wrote: »

I think youve misunderstood that statement as meaning they will choose a minority over a majority individual for the job. That's not what the statement means at all.

On the contrary, the OP has understood it perfectly - the statement means exactly what it says.

What happened to the level playing field?

WhiteHorse

cr1mson wrote: »

Could you cite the applicable law?

Try here.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ResolvingWorkplaceDisputes/DiscriminationAtWork/DG_10026667

Positive discrimination is not legal in this country, although there are occasional get-outs for specialised roles.

cr1mson

But how is the statement

is an Equal Opportunities employer. We actively encourage applications from individuals from ethnic minority groups

positive discrimination?

This is positive action which is different in fact if you read your own link it explains it clearly.

What is 'positive action'?

Positive action is where an employer provides support or encouragement to a particular racial group. It is only allowed where a specific racial group is, or has been in the previous 12 months, badly under-represented among those doing particular work, either:

• nationally
• locally
• within an employer's own workforce

The employer is allowed to provide special training to members of the racial group. They can also encourage members of the racial group to apply to do the work or fill the posts (for example, by saying that applications from them will be particularly welcome).
This does not mean that employers can discriminate in favour of the members of the group when it comes to choosing people to do the work or fill the posts, that is unlawful discrimination.
Positive action is not the same as 'positive discrimination', which is where members of a particular racial group are treated more favourably just because they come from that racial group. Positive discrimination is unlawful.

C