Motability

Pimperne1

heathcote123 wrote: »

Giving people a cheap free car is discrimination? Does the madness never end?

Didn't Abu Hamza get a nice new car on this scheme?

Only on this website could you make the statement "Not giving 560,000 people a new, fully insured, taxed, annually serviced, free tyres replacement, breakdown covered vehicle every three years would be as expensive giving them one".

What is missing in all these schemes, but which will shortly need to be introduced, is "can the country afford it". I for one will be delighted when a more reasoned and financially prudent approach is adopted when someone comes up with such a hair brained scheme.

If we were living within our means then I would have no problem with this, we're not so I do.

chewmylegoff

Pimperne1 wrote: »

I for one will be delighted when a more reasoned and financially prudent approach is adopted when someone comes up with such a hair brained scheme.

well, the cost seems to be £1,750 per annum per person or thereabouts. doesn't seem to be an enormous amount to me given that based (admittedly on a 20 second google search) it appears to cost about £3,000 a year to get a fiesta on contract hire.

do you have a more reasonable financially prudent suggestion. to be honest, i pretty much hate large parts of the benefit system. this is quite a lot less offensive to me than most other parts.

heathcote123

Graham_Devon wrote: »

But as these cars are leased, we, the taxpayer are not paying for that depriciation. We just pay for the use via a monthly fee. The dealers are paying for the depriciation. It's worked into their leasing costs.

You are Ed Balls, and I claim my £5.00.

Graham_Devon

Pimperne1 wrote: »

Only on this website could you make the statement "Not giving 560,000 people a new, fully insured, taxed, annually serviced, free tyres replacement, breakdown covered vehicle every three years would be as expensive giving them one".

What is missing in all these schemes, but which will shortly need to be introduced, is "can the country afford it". I for one will be delighted when a more reasoned and financially prudent approach is adopted when someone comes up with such a hair brained scheme.

If we were living within our means then I would have no problem with this, we're not so I do.

Well I'd certainly be all ears to your suggestions?

heathcote123

hmm.. how to qualify for the motability bit of the DLA...

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Mobility needs







If you:

• Have physical problems when walking out of doors (this could include: experiencing pain after walking only a short distance, getting short of breath, needing to keep stopping to rest, needing someone to support you, or having a problem with your balance).
• Need someone with you when walking out of doors in unfamiliar places (this help could be needed to guide you or make sure you are safe. You may, for example, need help to cross the road or avoid obstacles, help to find your way around or help to cope with the effects of panic or anxiety).

..

Wow they've set the bar high for that one. I can't believe any one but the most needy could pull that off.

In fact I think I might qualify for that myself, where do I get the form?


edit: OMFG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DLA is not usually affected by savings
DLA is not usually affected by other money you have coming in

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They shower this at people that already have a decent income!?

heathcote123

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Well I'd certainly be all ears to your suggestions?

You've just seen quite a lot of suggestions, but you seem to think there is no conceivable alternative than buying anyone who gets a bit short of breath a brand new taxpayer funded car every third year.

leveller2911

I have a sister who has a disabled daughter who have a people carrier motorbility car ,she is in a wheelchair and does need the car.Where I don't agree with the system is that they pay for no sevicing,no tax and no insurance.They are able to get a brand spanking new one every 3 yrs when there nothing wrong with the existing car.As far as I'm aware cars depreciate the most within the first 3 years so why are they allowed another one?There is no logic to the system at all.

I also have a friend who's son will be in a wheelchair within 4 years, he has a nice new VW Golf, £17k and I'm the first to admit he will need a car but he doesn't now. Up until recently the DLA for the last few years has been saved up for a "Conservatory" fund.Why is an expensive brand like VW along with BMW on the scheme in the first place?. You can by a brand new Skoda Octavia with a larger boot and doors for £11k , VW Golf £17k.......Its pretty obvious that the country can no longer run the scheme in its present form which is expensive and open to abuse on a wide scale.

The link below also points out if you have a child with ADHD you can qualify for Motorbility.It makes a very interesting read.

http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/waste/2011/10/adhd-motability-scheme-exposes.html

leveller2911

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Well I'd certainly be all ears to your suggestions?

Make recipients keep the same car for at least 10 years is a start and stop people having premium brands like BMW and VW......;)

Pimperne1

leveller2911 wrote: »

I have a sister who has a disabled daughter who have a people carrier motorbility car ,she is in a wheelchair and does need the car.Where I don't agree with the system is that they pay for no sevicing,not tax and no insurance.They are able to get a brand spanking new one every 3 yrs when there nothing wrong with the existing car.As far as I'm aware cars depreciate the most within the first 3 years so why are they allowed another one?There is no logic to the system at all.

I also have a friend who's son will be in a wheelchair within 4 years, he has a nice new VW Golf, £17k and I'm the first to admit he will need a car but he doesn't now. Up until recently the DLA for the last few years has been saved up for a "Conservatory" fund.Why is an expensive brand like VW along with BMW on the scheme in the first place?. You can by a brand new Skoda Octavia with a larger boot and doors for £11k , VW Golf £17k.......


The link below also points out if you have a child with ADHD you can qualify for Motorbility.It makes a very interesting read.

http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/waste/2011/10/adhd-motability-scheme-exposes.html

Good post. I had a colleague who worked with me once who had some problems with his son. He came into the office punching the air one day and I said "Good news?". "Yes, Jonathan's been diagnosed with ADHD". A couple of other questions identified that he was going to be "considerably" better off.

What sort of society do we live in?

Graham_Devon

heathcote123 wrote: »

You've just seen quite a lot of suggestions, but you seem to think there is no conceivable alternative than buying anyone who gets a bit short of breath a brand new taxpayer funded car every third year.

I've actually discussed it in quite some detail, giving real reasons for my thoughts. You just called me Ed Balls (for some unfathomable reason) in response.

You seem incapable of discussing this in any type of reasonable manner. Fair do's, but don't expect any reasonable discussion if all you can bring to the table is your 3 posts on page 2.