MSE News: Benefits recipients could lose £1 billion

NewStart09

Sorry but the USA is not in Europe, and it is not the largest employer of cheap labour

I think you would have to look at India or China for that!

John_Pierpoint

........and the most "subsidised" country is.............?

Who mentioned Europe?
The richest country in Europe is probably something smaller than Yorkshire called Luxembourg, if you discount the farm sized Monaco.

The point I was making is that the USA (like Britain a hundred years earlier) has been running a massive deficit for years & years, this overspending has been financed recently on the backs of poor Chinese migrating to boom towns.

We are on the cusp of economic change, my crystal ball is very murky at present, and Ii think the majority of the American population have no crystal ball at all.

zagfles

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

We are in a global economy - the wage for a basic job, like using a sewing machine, in a lot of third world countries, is about 25 pence an hour. That is for those who manage to get such a job - welcome to the real world.

Of course none of us in this country with a massive fiscal and balance of payments deficit ever buy clothing that does not say "made in England". We just would not want to feel "subsidised" by foreign workers living on the breadline, would we?

........and the most "subsidised" country is.............?

Yes - this is what happens when you define "poverty" relative to the country you live in, rather than relative to the rest of the world. Maybe we need a "global minimum wage" rather than a "national minimum wage"

zagfles

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

........and the most "subsidised" country is.............?

Who mentioned Europe?
The richest country in Europe is probably something smaller than Yorkshire called Luxembourg, if you discount the farm sized Monaco.

The point I was making is that the USA (like Britain a hundred years earlier) has been running a massive deficit for years & years, this overspending has been financed recently on the backs of poor Chinese migrating to boom towns.

Plus Chinese prisoners who are effectively slaves - google laogai.

At least the US has laws against the import of such goods, the EU doesn't. Though it appears they are easily circumvented...

John_Pierpoint

zagfles wrote: »

Plus Chinese prisoners who are effectively slaves - google laogai.

At least the US has laws against the import of such goods, the EU doesn't. Though it appears they are easily circumvented...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laogai

Did I see the documentary, where the educationally subnormal were put to work in the brick fields, as virtual slave labour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeit_macht_frei

Mind you there was a similar case in a traveller site her in the UK recently and I bet those drowned cockle pickers were not on minimum wage.