MSE News: Benefits recipients could lose £1 billion

flight747

Vincent_Buenisedes wrote: »

If it was linked to earnings, JSA would be worth at least £100 per week by now.

JSA should be paying on the minimum wage £100 by now. £67.50 a week is not enough to foot the bill, foods.

davidgmmafan

I can understand the unhappiness it would cause when many working people have had a pay freeze (which is really a cut) and benefits go up by a large (ish) percentage. However I think we have to be VERY careful about how we approach things like this. Leaving aside the fact this will fuel further mistrust of our great leaders it seems more and more the debate is negative.

Take pensions. Well you know they should be delighted with this deal they are still far far better of than the private sector. The people saying this ARE IN GOVERNMENT so instead of making this argument as an end in itself would it be out of the question for them to I don't know maybe do something to improve private sector pension provision? I don't just mean getting more people to have one, though clearly that isn't a bad first step. I mean thinking, REALLY thinking, about why they have gotten so much worse. They make a big deal of doing somethings for the long term and pensions is a massive issue which the government has a direct stake in.

If they fudge it then the state is going to be picking up the tab.

I also don't understand some other policies of the government. They've been bleating for years that council tax has become way too high. Their policy? A council tax freeze. This suggests they believe it is at precisely the right level.

Same goes with regulation for business, its a core part of their political philosophy to have a small state. What then is their policy? The one in one out rule. Again assuming some sort of equilibrium is just fine and dandy.

Rant over, sorry it veered off topic!

flight747

We are still £4.8 trillion in debt! It all government fault, Thatcher's year, Major's year, Blair's year, Brown's year and now Cameron's year.

We will never recovery!

Time for third world war pretty soon.

Rupert_Bear

The main thing is the pensioners will not suffer. As for the other benefits some of the claimants could take drastic action of course and find a job. Sorry I forgot a lot do not want to work for the min wage.

chall1964

NewStart09 wrote: »

Well they should stop us paying their ridiculous allowances.

What other job gives such a liberal allowance, I have worked at Senior Management level and never been able to submit receipt for reimbursment for my second home furniture tv, pay my electric bill etc...

The mere thought they can submit an allowance for a 42p candy bar (Mr Cameron shows no shame in doing this) is just absurd! With their £60k+ pay surely they can afford this!!!


We need a petition to Ban MP allowances that would save the UK tax payer millions over the years, let that money be spent on the children or caring for the elderly, MP's need to start living in the real world......I would compare this to Maria Antoniette let them it cake bit..........!

I agree.

The cuts will, I assume, eventually affect most of us or/and members of our family, OAP's, public & private sector employed, unemployed, parents, students, disabled, etc.
Surely we'd all be better placed if we stood together. We are all subordinates to those in Government and can any of us guarantee we or/and our family will not;
need education,
loose employment,
become sick or disabled,
get old?

I do not advocate benefit cheats, those playing the system (which parliament created in their wisdom), should be targeted. Other cases are genuine and I don't feel should be lumped into the same category.

Neither am I in favor of the Government hiding behind and making the rest of society suffer when they mess up!

chall1964

Rupert_Bear wrote: »

The main thing is the pensioners will not suffer. As for the other benefits some of the claimants could take drastic action of course and find a job. Sorry I forgot a lot do not want to work for the min wage.

- and with unemployment at a 17 year high ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15271800

cit_k

Rupert_Bear wrote: »

The main thing is the pensioners will not suffer. As for the other benefits some of the claimants could take drastic action of course and find a job. Sorry I forgot a lot do not want to work for the min wage.

Have you not got a playground to go troll in?

John_Pierpoint

We are in a global economy - the wage for a basic job, like using a sewing machine, in a lot of third world countries, is about 25 pence an hour. That is for those who manage to get such a job - welcome to the real world.

Of course none of us in this country with a massive fiscal and balance of payments deficit ever buy clothing that does not say "made in England". We just would not want to feel "subsidised" by foreign workers living on the breadline, would we?

........and the most "subsidised" country is.............?

rogerblack

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

........and the most "subsidised" country is.............?

The Vatican?

John_Pierpoint

Not a trick question, like "which is the richest country in Europe".

I was thinking USA - massive deficits for years and years paid for by third world workers.