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Public Sector Pension Strikes – A JOKE !

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  • real1314 wrote: »
    We clearly are NOT all in it together.

    Well your right there most of us don't have any pension provision at all, we don't have the option of retiring at 60 (or 65 as told), if we do set a pension up the amount we will have to pay in to get anywhere near your tax payers contribution pension is over 20-25% of pay!!!

    Back again to fairness for far too long PS workers have been treated as better citizens who don't have to follow the rules of the 'real world'

    Count yourself lucky they still want you to have an over generous pension scheme, if it was up to me you would have no better and no worse than the average private sector pension that really would be fair.
  • Old_Slaphead
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    real1314 wrote: »
    So, who else is paying £30k of cold cash towards the deficit?

    Most women aged around 55 who've seen their pension age go up from 60 to 66.

    Many, like me, in the private sector who've witnessed a dramatic reduction in annuity rates due to government spending largess necessitating huge volumes of quantitive easing.

    Many savers who've seen their income from savings drop significantly.

    Need anyone else ?

    BTW your pension hasn't gone down at all - it's just being spread over a longer period !
  • real1314
    real1314 Posts: 4,432 Forumite
    edited 2 December 2011 at 10:14PM
    howee wrote: »
    Well your right there most of us don't have any pension provision at all, we don't have the option of retiring at 60 (or 65 as told), if we do set a pension up the amount we will have to pay in to get anywhere near your tax payers contribution pension is over 20-25% of pay!!!

    Back again to fairness for far too long PS workers have been treated as better citizens who don't have to follow the rules of the 'real world'

    Count yourself lucky they still want you to have an over generous pension scheme, if it was up to me you would have no better and no worse than the average private sector pension that really would be fair.

    So, at the age of 20 you set up a scheme that was planned to pay half salary at the age of 60 did you?

    Fairness only seems to turn up when someone loses out. You're like a bunch of wet liberals complaining that it's not fair that someone else did better than you when making choices. We can't have someone winning can we now?

    You could have chosen differently, but you didn't. If your choice had turned out better, would you be complaining?

    Childish. You need to get in the real world and accept that YOU lost; others "won". :cool:
  • real1314
    real1314 Posts: 4,432 Forumite
    Most women aged around 55 who've seen their pension age go up from 60 to 66.

    Which applies to all. Regardless of occupation, so hardly relevant. And what's more, that change has been around for over 15 years.

    All you've done is shown that the effect is even greater for public sector workers in that category.

    So, if you say that's £30k, those public sector workers are £60k down

    Many, like me, in the private sector who've witnessed a dramatic reduction in annuity rates due to government spending largess necessitating huge volumes of quantitive easing.

    So, how much did you put in, when did you start it? What were you promised?
    Although at the end of the day, you went for a system with risks. If you failed to check the risks, whose fault is that? Is it the fault of public sector workers?

    Many savers who've seen their income from savings drop significantly.

    Again, how does that affect the public sector less than the private sector?

    Another £30k loss to public sector workers?

    Need anyone else ?

    BTW your pension hasn't gone down at all - it's just being spread over a longer period !

    A pretty poor attempt to come up with anything really. You seem to be remarkably un-informed on what differentiates the public sector from the private sector. :cool:
  • WhiteHorse
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  • real1314 wrote: »
    Childish. You need to get in the real world and accept that YOU lost; others "won". :cool:

    There you go your now accepting you are on a far better crack than the rest of us (at last).

    I actually do pay in to a pension scheme (10%), but for a pittance. What gets me is having to subsidise yours grrr

    Did you think this conversation would not have come up under Red Ed? God that would have been funny the bottler and the union bully maybe he would have caved in but a future government minus the weakling would have changed the pensions regardles of party.

    I actually do think I chose wrong at 20 and should have gone in for extra holidays (aka sickies), PS workers definitely corner that market. I deal with planning departments but never call before 10am as there is never anyone there and if you can't do the job your moved somewhere else but not sacked and of course knowing all your rights and using them to the max is a given (do you ever go back off your lunch 5mins early? or is it forbidden by the unions lol
  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    howee wrote: »
    There you go your now accepting you are on a far better crack than the rest of us (at last).

    I actually do pay in to a pension scheme (10%), but for a pittance. What gets me is having to subsidise yours grrrDid you think this conversation would not have come up under Red Ed? God that would have been funny the bottler and the union bully maybe

    he would have caved in but a future government minus the weakling would have changed the pensions regardles of party.

    I actually do think I chose wrong at 20 and should have gone in for extra holidays (aka sickies), PS workers definitely corner that market. I deal with planning departments but never call before 10am as there is never anyone there and if you can't do the job your moved somewhere else but not sacked and of course knowing all your rights and using them to the max is a given (do you ever go back off your lunch 5mins early? or is it forbidden by the unions lol


    How much is your pittance
    Needing to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans
  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    howee wrote: »
    I never class it as something I have to taken as its 'my right', exactly why I never have sickies either, I don't class them or use them as a 'use them or lose them' mentality.


    i dont know anyone who does
    Needing to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans
  • howee wrote: »
    There you go your now accepting you are on a far better crack than the rest of us (at last).

    I actually do pay in to a pension scheme (10%), but for a pittance. What gets me is having to subsidise yours grrr

    Did you think this conversation would not have come up under Red Ed? God that would have been funny the bottler and the union bully maybe he would have caved in but a future government minus the weakling would have changed the pensions regardles of party.

    I actually do think I chose wrong at 20 and should have gone in for extra holidays (aka sickies), PS workers definitely corner that market. I deal with planning departments but never call before 10am as there is never anyone there and if you can't do the job your moved somewhere else but not sacked and of course knowing all your rights and using them to the max is a given (do you ever go back off your lunch 5mins early? or is it forbidden by the unions lol

    What a generalisation:mad::mad:
  • howee wrote: »
    There you go your now accepting you are on a far better crack than the rest of us (at last).

    I actually do pay in to a pension scheme (10%), but for a pittance. What gets me is having to subsidise yours grrr

    Did you think this conversation would not have come up under Red Ed? God that would have been funny the bottler and the union bully maybe he would have caved in but a future government minus the weakling would have changed the pensions regardles of party.

    I actually do think I chose wrong at 20 and should have gone in for extra holidays (aka sickies), PS workers definitely corner that market. I deal with planning departments but never call before 10am as there is never anyone there and if you can't do the job your moved somewhere else but not sacked and of course knowing all your rights and using them to the max is a given (do you ever go back off your lunch 5mins early? or is it forbidden by the unions lol

    RUDE RUDE RUDE :mad::mad::mad:
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