Public Sector Pension Strikes – A JOKE !

DCodd

Zelazny wrote: »

The point is in who you are inconveniencing.

Unilever employees go on strike - inconveniencing their employer

Public sector workers go on strike - inconveniences everyone.
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I would agree with that but I thought (looking back at the comments in this thread and many others) that "everyone" were the employers of the Public sector?

Zelazny

DCodd wrote: »

I would agree with that but I thought (looking back at the comments in this thread and many others) that "everyone" were the employers of the Public sector?

I'm happy to accept that point if you are :rotfl:

DCodd

dshart wrote: »

Why did all the different unions for the different public sector workers all decide to strike on the same day. The did it to cause maximum disruption and try and hold the government to ransom. They could have chosen other ways to show their feeling without the inconvenience to the rest of the general public.

If the union members at some other company similar to Unilever decided now to come out in support of them the strike would be deemed illegal.

Well as many private sector pensions are also suffering maybe the whole private sector should go on strike to protest it. Somehow I do not think they will let that happen.

Unilever are a parent company that own many other companies inc Marmite, Persil and PG Tips and there a 3 main unions involved in the strike action.

DCodd

Zelazny wrote: »

I'm happy to accept that point if you are :rotfl:

Touche Zelazny;)

lindopski_2

dshart wrote: »

Well as many private sector pensions are also suffering maybe the whole private sector should go on strike to protest it. Somehow I do not think they will let that happen.

It wont happen because no one cares enough.
The British public are to concerned about me,myself and I to worry about other peoples problems.
The private sector gets hammered and the public sector are not bothered about it
the public sector gets hammered and the 'wronged' private sector are like jackals around a kill.
No one sticks up for anyone else and no one cares about anyone else, there is no community (never mind society thatcher) so long as Im alright jack then I'm not bothered about anyone else.
Even I am joining in with it now as it appears to be the norm.

Before to long we will be like China, leaving babies in the street to get run over by cars whilst we all walk past not giving a !!!!.

I'd quite happily drop every modern comfort if someone could dump me back in the 1950s (somewhere near Chester will do).
Ill be dead before the rot sets in then.

dshart

Moby wrote: »

After last night this statement looks distinctly hollow. We are now effectively sidelined as a second rate influence in Europe. The French German led axis of 17 countries will now forge ahead with their own plans, about 9 other countries will also follow leaving us sidelined. In future any Chinese, Brazilian, Indian, American business interests will go to the 17 when trading. The rules and decisions will be made by them!.......but don't worry we'll always be able to say that Cameron has protected the City! This approach is utterly wrong. He has been hamstrung by his own xenephobic constituency to the cost of all of us. He hasn't protected the City anyway....the French German axis will bulldoze through new legislation in any event! All he has achieved is to sideline us into 'splendid isolationism'. We are becoming a second rate tin pot country ruled by xenophobic little Englanders who don't give a fig for the rights and quality of life of the people that live here. Wages, conditions of service, employment law will all be eroded in the interests of competition. The spivs and speculators will continue to make a killing and hard working people will live in continual fear of unemployment. Unbelievable and really sad IMO!

Only time will tell if the decisions taken now will work against Britain. Europe is in a mess financially and Germany and France are desperately trying to take control of the whole union. The reason the national debt in most other Eurozone countries like Greece and Italy is such a problem is that the countries, because they are in the Euro, are unable to devalue their currencies and make their exports more attractive.

What Germany and France are trying to do now is get unified control of the Eurozone fiscal policy and be able to limit countries budget spending and economic policies. At present people find it hard to accept the actions being taken by our own government in trying to get the budget deficit under control, so what will be the reaction when these budget cuts are imposed from Europe. Will the unions accept that because Europe says their pensions are unaffordable they should be cut or they should pay more and work longer?

We do not know what the outcome of the veto will be long term. If a united Europe is successful then Britain will probably lose out. But if a United Europe fails and suffers continued downgrades of its financial status then people in Germany and France will be cursing their leaders for dragging them down this route instead of bailing while the going was good for them.

The thing is I do believe a United Europe with a central government could be a good thing, but I think we are still a very long way away from that as the differences between countries is far too great.

MikeR71

Zelazny wrote: »

The point is in who you are inconveniencing.

Unilever employees go on strike - inconveniencing their employer

Public sector workers go on strike - inconveniences everyone.

So this is the clearest indication that public sector is so crucial to the smooth running of the daily affairs of the country. Would you care if the bankers went on strike? I bet not.

So let's stop moaning about public sector pensions and pay them a decent salary and retirement.

MikeR71

lindopski wrote: »

It wont happen because no one cares enough.
The British public are to concerned about me,myself and I to worry about other peoples problems.
The private sector gets hammered and the public sector are not bothered about it
the public sector gets hammered and the 'wronged' private sector are like jackals around a kill.
No one sticks up for anyone else and no one cares about anyone else, there is no community (never mind society thatcher) so long as

We already saw this last week with all the fuss over public pensions. Many people demonised public sector workers, requesting that their pensions be cut. It's as though they feel good knowing that another group of citizens will get screwed and has to live in hardship. This was the saddest part for me, to know this is what we have come to, begrudging others their modest living.

Let's not forget, we are not talking about some rich section of the society here. We are talking about teachers and nurses, careworkers and firemen. Yet there were many who wanted their bread taken away. It was disgusting and I felt ashamed on their behalf.

jem16

J_i_m wrote: »

Lastst proposals mean that my personal pension contributions will not be going up for perhapps another year yet.

I assume you will turn down this proposal as you didn't strike as you were happy with the original offers?

J_i_m

jem16 wrote: »

I assume you will turn down this proposal as you didn't strike as you were happy with the original offers?

What are you suggesting? For me to opt out of my pension?