Excel Parking Charge Notice - to ignore?

Kite2010

1) How do they know I didn't purchase a ticket? (no one came to ask me whilst I was there)
Most likely the ticket machine would have asked you to input your numberplate

2) Are they likely to keep normal CCTV footage of my movements as well the ANPR
It isn't ANPR cameras, it's CCTV cameras with software to identity cars overstaying/not paying

3) What is the maximum amount they could demand from me including court costs
Lets assume that the pay & display for that car-park was 60p an hour, the most the landowner can sue you for is 10p (10 minutes of the hour), Excel hasn't suffered no damages from your trespass so like everybody else is saying ignore!

TrickyWicky

vax2002 wrote: »

You can not sue someone for trespass you invite on to your land.
Think again....

Yet council parking departments do it on a daily basis.

What you can and can't do morally isn't the same as what you can and can't do under legislation. Parking = money. Money = anything can happen.

Coupon-mad

No they don't - Councils do not sue motorists for trespass - I thought you knew that as you were a CEO! :rotfl:

You are pretty muddled up about the Freedoms Bill TrickyWicky!

TrickyWicky

Coupon-mad wrote: »

No they don't - Councils do not sue motorists for trespass - I thought you knew that as you were a CEO! :rotfl:

No they don't directly take you to court and sue you but it operates on those grounds.

Sirdan

TrickyWicky wrote: »

No they don't directly take you to court and sue you but it operates on those grounds.

No it doesn't, it operates under a statutory authority to issue penalties...something the BPA can only dream of and something which is most definitely in Schedule 4 !

Sirdan

vax2002 wrote: »

You can not sue someone for trespass you invite on to your land.
Think again....

Sorry but I disagree, if the invite is conditional on a maximum stay of x hours and you exceed x hours then your invitation has lapsed and you are probably trespassing.

TrickyWicky

Sirdan wrote: »

Sorry but I disagree, if the invite is conditional on a maximum stay of x hours and you exceed x hours then your invitation has lapsed and you are probably trespassing.

OR is that a breach of contract as suggested in the other thread

Whatever the legal implications we know one thing is for sure: The PPCs are after the RK.

Coupon-mad

We already knew about this Bill TrickyWicky. All you are doing to alarming newbies with your posts - surely that's not your intention?

TrickyWicky

Actually it is.

Don't you think people should know about it? YOU may know but the majority of people don't.

esmerobbo

TrickyWicky wrote: »

Face it, the government is hard up for cash (never changes even when there's plenty flowing) so they're looking for extra revenue. Tax is their revenue and when PPCs are able to extort more money from people legitimately..

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What are they going to get from PPC's if its a penalty there is no VAT and its not income its to recover a loss!
[See HMRC V VCS Ltd]
If its income then they cant sue because you can only recover actual costs?
If people pay these invoices what are they saying they are in their accounts? income or expenses?

The only income to the government will be from the tax from any profit and VAT from legitimate parking which is paid for, and which they already receive, or should.

I cant see the PPC's being a cash cow for the government, to confirm have a look at the last accounts of some of them!;)