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Single Yellow Line PCN
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Having looked at your ticket on their website (nice of you to post the details) there are a couple of flaws in their case which might just be enough to sway them to let it go.
1) No photograph of the sign (assuming you're not inside a controlled parking zone - if you are then you're screwed)
2) No close-up photograph of the tax disc. The officer has almost certainly got a record of these in his book but why didn't he take a photograph? - How do you know this officer doesn't already have your tax details written down in a pocket book kept on himself as part of a vendetta? -You've not really got much to go on so you need to put forward the point that you'll pick the case apart with every last detail including the officers integrity.0 -
They don't need to have a pic of the tax disk, to suggest the ceo has the details written down is a little paranoid.I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.0
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As a former CEO myself (with experience from two local authorities) I feel I have enough experience to actually comment on this peter.
While you're correct that they don't 'need' a photo of the tax disc, it does provide clear evidence of the vehicle if needed at an appeal. If the officer hasn't taken a close up shot of the vehicle then they cannot directly prove that it was that vehicles disc.
Secondly some officers DO carry vehicles details around with them. At my last employer we had a chap who would openly brag about his book with tax disc details in so that he could prepare a ticket from up the road when he saw the car, print it, walk past, photograph it on the windscreen and walk away before the owner could even run to the door. He was and still is the authoritys hightest issuer of PCNs.
Having been in the industry with two councils and also private companies I can honestly say that some of the staff are less than honest. Perhaps you should put in a Freedom Of Information request to your local council and find out just how many staff they've fired over the last 10 years for dishonesty at work.0 -
If you make a FOI request they will not tell you why. Please do tell why you have worked for so many Councils, is it because you were doing this trickywicky.
Regardless what does tax have to do with anything, the only reason tax is taken is 1. To confirm the vehicle ID, 2. To prove the PCN was put on to the correct vehicle. (The VRM is on the tax)
Some people are just strange on here...0 -
Oh sorry and forgot to say for 24 Councils the procedure is to take tax details in the pocket book!.0
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If you make a FOI request they will not tell you why. Please do tell why you have worked for so many Councils, is it because you were doing this trickywicky.
No I was an honest kinda TW. You know.. the type that are quite happy not to worry about ticket counts. Sadly that doesn't always go down well with money hungry councils.Regardless what does tax have to do with anything, the only reason tax is taken is 1. To confirm the vehicle ID, 2. To prove the PCN was put on to the correct vehicle. (The VRM is on the tax)
It's about the council being able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the vehicle they claim is there is the one it is. As I said in my first post its not really enough to sway them but its enough to call the officers integrity into doubt.Some people are just strange on here...
Like yourself who thinks you're an expert when you've never even worked in the sector. :rotfl:
Seriously, just because I'm an ex TW doesn't make me a bad guy, a weird guy or even wrong. You can either accept and welcome my input or bash it and I'll stop helping.0 -
I didn't say that! and I do. I was a CEO also, so not much you can say to that really. I am not now just to confirm, and I still work in the sector.0
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Oh sorry and forgot to say for 24 Councils the procedure is to take tax details in the pocket book!.
That may well be the case (actually nearly all do) but you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.
I've known colleagues who keep their favourite 'victims' tax details in their own little book to give the PCN recipient even less chance of spotting the officer hanging around.
Being a CEO is supposed to be as much about deterring wrongly parked vehicles as it is PCN'ing them. Not all of them play fair rules.0 -
No it's about making money. The Traffic Warden is what you describe. We live in the real world!.0
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I've been kind of lucjy in that respect. Both authorities I've worked for were not target driven so there was no pressure. Yes there is no denying its all about money but they can't force cars to park wrongly and be found.. although they can change beat patterns etc.
Why do I get the impression I know you?0
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