My CPN wants me to go back into a mental health ward, what to do?

HappySaver1968

Hi,

Today has been the worst day I've had in a long time and I had to have an emergency meeting with my CPN who then arranged for me to see my doctor on an urgent appointment and she then came back to my home this afternoon at 4:00pm and says she wants me to go back into hospital for my own safety and peace of mind. She says I would have the 24 hour care she thinks I sorely need there and would be in a better place than I am now. I haven't long since came out of hospital and this is the first time in my life I've claimed benefits and my worry is that if I do go back into hospital, this will mess up my claim and mean having to go through the whole hassle of it all again when I come back out.

I've found a lot of support in these forums and I'd really appreciate if someone could give me some honest, heartfelt advice because I'm nearing the end of my tether with everything and don't want to be sectioned like I was before. My wife has played mind games all day and arranged for me to see the children but when I did get them I thought it was a little strange she handed them over without any trouble, at least that was until the police showed up at my door mid-afternoon and accused me of abducting them! she now says I'll never see them again and that they hate me. I hope someone can help me. Do you think I should return to hospital? my nurse said I can go at anytime and she will accompany me or if it's out of hours, then another member of the team will take me along and I'll remain there for a week or two. Thanks.

John.

richard9991

HappySaver1968 wrote: »

Hi,

Today has been the worst day I've had in a long time and I had to have an emergency meeting with my CPN who then arranged for me to see my doctor on an urgent appointment and she then came back to my home this afternoon at 4:00pm and says she wants me to go back into hospital for my own safety and peace of mind. She says I would have the 24 hour care she thinks I sorely need there and would be in a better place than I am now. I haven't long since came out of hospital and this is the first time in my life I've claimed benefits and my worry is that if I do go back into hospital, this will mess up my claim and mean having to go through the whole hassle of it all again when I come back out.

I've found a lot of support in these forums and I'd really appreciate if someone could give me some honest, heartfelt advice because I'm nearing the end of my tether with everything and don't want to be sectioned like I was before. My wife has played mind games all day and arranged for me to see the children but when I did get them I thought it was a little strange she handed them over without any trouble, at least that was until the police showed up at my door mid-afternoon and accused me of abducting them! she now says I'll never see them again and that they hate me. I hope someone can help me. Do you think I should return to hospital? my nurse said I can go at anytime and she will accompany me or if it's out of hours, then another member of the team will take me along and I'll remain there for a week or two. Thanks.

John.

what benefits do you get contribution benefits are not affected by being in hospital

oldtractor

I think you should follow medical advice, try not to worry about the benefit claims,this sort of thing happens all the time. Take care and look after yourself.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow

I think you should take the advice of our CPN. Voluntarily admitting yourself is not the same thing as being sectioned. Your CPN must think you need to go otherwise she wouldn't have suggested it.

I don't think it will affect your benefits.

With regard to child access - I think it would look much better for you if you were to voluntarily seek treatment as opposed to being sectioned.

What do you want to do?

System

I think i remember you saying you were on ESA,

If you're in hospital as an inpatient, this may affect the amount of ESA you get. You'll be counted as an inpatient if your treatment is funded by the NHS and:
you're in a hospital (including NHS hospitals, armed forces hospitals and special hospitals, but not prison medical wings)
you're in a similar institution (which could be a care home, a hospice or a rehabilitation unit that provides medical care).
You won't be counted as an inpatient if:
you're a private patient
you're meeting the cost of your treatment in a private hospital
your placement was arranged by a local authority (even with some NHS contribution to the costs of nursing care)
If you go into hospital as an inpatient, you must report this to Jobcentre Plus, however long your stay in hospital may be. You can continue to get contributory ESA while you're in hospital, however long this may be. You can also continue to be paid income-related ESA indefinitely if you go into hospital.
However, if you were getting the severe disability or carer premium as part of your income-related ESA, you'll only be able to keep getting this for a limited time while you're in hospital. This is because the benefits that help you to qualify for these premiums are withdrawn after you've been in hospital for a certain time (Disability Living Allowance after four weeks and Carer’s Allowance after 12 weeks). The enhanced disability premium, however, can continue to be paid for 52 weeks of a hospital stay. If you receive housing costs, these may no longer be payable after 52 weeks.
If you're in a care home and you have moderate nursing needs, the NHS should assess your case to decide if you qualify for NHS help with your accommodation costs. For advice, contact an organisation such as Carers UK or the Citizens Advice Bureau, or call the Carers Direct helpline on 0808 802 0202.
If you're a patient detained under section 45A or section 47 of the Mental Health Act, you're not entitled to benefits.

http://www.nhs.uk/CarersDirect/moneyandlegal/otherbenefits/Pages/ESA-changes.aspx

Take medical advice, and give yourself time to recover

HTH

HappySaver1968

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow wrote: »

I think you should take the advice of our CPN. Voluntarily admitting yourself is not the same thing as being sectioned. Your CPN must think you need to go otherwise she wouldn't have suggested it.

I don't think it will affect your benefits.

With regard to child access - I think it would look much better for you if you were to voluntarily seek treatment as opposed to being sectioned.

What do you want to do?

Thanks, this is good to know because I was worried about going in there and having literally nothing again when I come out as I no longer have a home, a job, a car, any friends or any savings. I desperately want to improve my situation, not just for me but for my children too because they shouldn't have to see their dad like this, I need to be strong and do what's right. I know within myself things are very bad and the nurse wanted me to go tonight and was reluctant to leave me after she visited. I can only see things getting worse before they get better and my doctor said they think I'm very vulnerable right now and that they're putting a lot of trust in me by letting me remain where I am. It isn't good in that I'm sleeping on a couch just now because it does your back no favours and I get the feeling my mate wants rid of me as we're not saying too much to each other and his girlfriend is blanking me and making it obvious I'm not welcome.

I've to text my CPN tomorrow and let her know how I am, she made me promise to do this. It would be good if someone can tell me a little about being in a mental health unit because on my last stay, I wasn't quite "there" if you know what I mean and by the time I started to come together again I was being signed out and expecting to go back to my house but it didn't work out like that unfortunately. I've never stayed in the local hospital mental health unit like the nurse suggested today, it was always a psychiatric ward in a specific mental health hospital on its own grounds and not sure if things are different. Thanks for responding so far, I was away having some tea, things are always better after a nice warm cup of tea and I'll check again before bed for any further updates.

John.

skintas_2

i have a cpn.. i dont trust her one little bit..at least yours came and visited you.. my doctor gave me really strong medication. i took it was outta it for 3 days could hardly speak. depends how you feel, could you not take some medication your cpn check you everyday x

BigAunty

The CPN is an experienced expert.

Benefit applications, while they can be very frustrating, are mere forms, a bit of paperwork, with which you will be given help to sort out IF there are even any issues with them.

So be kind to yourself, prioritise your health, rely on a specialist who has a vocation to look after people in your position, and put aside your admin/money worries relating to benefits.

Put your health and spirits first. Benefit stuff can be complex and frustrating even to those in perfect health without any distractions and you shouldn't put your energies into them above other priorities.

HappySaver1968

BigAunty wrote: »

The CPN is an experienced expert.

Benefit applications, while they can be very frustrating, are mere forms, a bit of paperwork, with which you will be given help to sort out IF there are even any issues with them.

So be kind to yourself, prioritise your health, rely on a specialist who has a vocation to look after people in your position, and put aside your admin/money worries relating to benefits.

Put your health and spirits first. Benefit stuff can be complex and frustrating even to those in perfect health without any distractions and you shouldn't put your energies into them above other priorities.

You always give me good advice, thank you. I'll see what tomorrow brings, it's a new day and maybe the problems of today won't seem quite as bad then. I will wait and see what happens but my gut instinct is telling me to take the help being offered and not be ashamed. Goodnight.

John.

skibadee

Definetly take your CPN's advice, I have read your posts on the 'Child Support' thread and you are going through hell!
Hopefully it will be short term. Your CPN obviously feels you need to be in hospital or they wouldn't of suggested it.
I don't know what a ward is like other than a ward in a psychiatric hospital, I wouldn't imagine its any worse???

Your health must come first, get yourself sorted then concentrate on your contact with your children, keep in touch with them if possible via telephone (if poss) letter or cards....just so they know your still there and thinking of them.

Your CPN may be able to get you a flat in a supported housing scheme maybe? I know this is done effectively in my area.

Please let us know how you are...and take care.

HappySaver1968

skibadee wrote: »

Definetly take your CPN's advice, I have read your posts on the 'Child Support' thread and you are going through hell!
Hopefully it will be short term. Your CPN obviously feels you need to be in hospital or they wouldn't of suggested it.
I don't know what a ward is like other than a ward in a psychiatric hospital, I wouldn't imagine its any worse???

Your health must come first, get yourself sorted then concentrate on your contact with your children, keep in touch with them if possible via telephone (if poss) letter or cards....just so they know your still there and thinking of them.

Your CPN may be able to get you a flat in a supported housing scheme maybe? I know this is done effectively in my area.

Please let us know how you are...and take care.

Wow, thank you for your kindness! I'm hopeful things will improve because without hope, I'd just give up completely. My nurse has mentioned amenity housing which she says I'm a priority for but I don't know anything about this and for whatever reason I don't feel able to sit just now and read things on paper, it's so much easier to read them online as I don't get agitated or stressed. I think of my children every minute of every day and they're what are keeping my going. I'm to make contact with my nurse tommorow morning and I intend to discuss further the option of time in hospital, better go for now as my mate will be home soon and I don't want him to catch me online so late, he'll get ideas :rotfl:

John.