MSE News: Jobs market 'set to get worse'

LadyMissA

tagq2 wrote: »

It is nothing more than a way of avoiding minimum wage laws and other labour protections. If you're being paid £x/week and you are required to do y hours of labour a week for that pay then you are being paid a wage for labour at a rate of £x/y/hour, no matter what spin they put on it. And by HMRC rules you might just be an agency worker where the agency is the DWP. To call it JSA is dishonest when you're being paid for working a J (but then "ESA", "fit note", etc. mean the opposite of what they are, so it's only continuing a hilariously Orwellian trend).

If the n million people out of work joined one of the general unions then there would suddenly be a lot of pressure on Labour to eliminate the programme. To bait the forum with some Marxism, much of the once spoilt labour aristocracy have degenerated into lumpenproletariat, all through lack of class consciousness.

Pressure on Labour? Who?

looby75

LadyMissA wrote: »

Who is the provider?

I don't know yet, I'll find out on Friday.

LadyMissA

looby75 wrote: »

I don't know yet, I'll find out on Friday.

you said the letter is to start the WP? So you know who it is with?

looby75

I actually wouldn't mind going on a work placement, I'm a lone parent and have been out of work for quite sometime now. I've been on voluntary courses in the past that have all promised work placements that have never materialised. I am hard to place because I have health problems and no childcare for my son.

I doubt that it will be any different on the work program, especially after reading this report, employers won't want to be seen to be changing the status quo.

looby75

LadyMissA wrote: »

you said the letter is to start the WP? So you know who it is with?

No the letter says I have to go and see an advisor to discuss the details of starting the work program. I will find out which provider then.

LadyMissA

looby75 wrote: »

No the letter says I have to go and see an advisor to discuss the details of starting the work program. I will find out which provider then.

Oh right then you will have to do another job seeking agreement and sign that then they will tell you who the provider is and a few days later you get a call from them telling you when you have to go to see them and a letter comes to confirm it.

Hope you don't get Seetec.

looby75

ah right, I only did a new jobseekers agreement a couple of weeks ago as I needed to change the house I was available because of the childcare issue. I wonder if they will just let me use that one again.

LadyMissA

looby75 wrote: »

ah right, I only did a new jobseekers agreement a couple of weeks ago as I needed to change the house I was available because of the childcare issue. I wonder if they will just let me use that one again.

if you have kids then you can restrict the hours you work but I have none so they made me change 9am to 6pm to 24 hours a day!!!! :O

looby75

LadyMissA wrote: »

if you have kids then you can restrict the hours you work but I have none so they made me change 9am to 6pm to 24 hours a day!!!! :O

thats bonkers, what if you have to rely on public transport to get anywhere, there aren't many places outside london that have 24 hour a day pubilc transport.

Round here the buses don't start running until about 6am and finish at 11pm

LadyMissA

looby75 wrote: »

thats bonkers, what if you have to rely on public transport to get anywhere, there aren't many places outside london that have 24 hour a day pubilc transport.

Round here the buses don't start running until about 6am and finish at 11pm

well they said I can not restirct my hours so had to go with it - like anyone really is working in accounts 24 hrs a day!