11 hour rule

judy_

Hi

My 18 year old started a new job at the end of Oct. He is working a 2 week training period getting £240 each week.
After the 2 week training he then will be working 40 hours on £6.08 an hour.

Last night he did not finish work until 1130pm and he was supposed to be on a day of rest today but he was told last night he has to work today starting at 10 am.

Also the amount of hours he will of worked this week will amount to well over 40 hours (nearer to 50 hours, for £240) so works out less than minimum wage.


Does anyone know if the 11 hour rule applies to training periods?

Thanks

Judy

DVardysShadow

NMW is £4.98/hr, as he is 18.

judy_

DVardysShadow wrote: »

NMW is £4.98/hr, as he is 18.

His contract says he will be getting £6.08 an hour.

scheming_gypsy

After his two weeks training he'll be on £6.08

bevanuk

judy_ wrote: »

His contract says he will be getting £6.08 an hour.

But does the contract say he is expected to work overtime? Or whether it is paid?

cord123

If it was a cancelled rest day then they will either pay him for it or reallocate it.
with regards to pay, how is this done? By timesheets, clocking in or out?
Personally, for the two week training I would let the extra hours slide but after that I would check I was being paid correctly for hours worked....

Jarndyce

DVardysShadow wrote: »

NMW is £4.98/hr, as he is 18.

a) the OP has not said her son is on the minimum wage and

b) 50 hours for £240 is £4.80 an hour which is less than the 18 year old's NMW anyway.

The 11 hour rule applies to all workers apart from those in the excluded sectors (mainly transport workers, police, armed forces etc) and there is no exclusion for training periods. Your son's employer is therefore in breach of the regulations.

What he actually does about it is another matter. If he has only been there a couple of weeks, he can raise a grievance and whilst a dismissal for doing so would be automatically unfair, he has no protection should the employer trump up some other reason for letting him go.

scheming_gypsy

Actually....

you say he's worked nearer to 50 hours, but has he 'worked' 50 hours or has he been at work for 50 hours? has he been there for 10.5 hours a day with half an hour lunch, or has he been there for 10 hours a day with half an hours lunch?

judy_

cord123 wrote: »

If it was a cancelled rest day then they will either pay him for it or reallocate it.
with regards to pay, how is this done? By timesheets, clocking in or out?
Personally, for the two week training I would let the extra hours slide but after that I would check I was being paid correctly for hours worked....

He was supposed to be having today and this saturday off, but now is only getting Sunday off.

I have told him to let it ride as he is in training this week. From next week to monitor his hours. (purely to work out his pay is correct each month). Starting next week any hours worked over 40 will be paid as overtime.

There is no clocking in or out or signing in/out sheets.

proactive

i quite often finish work at 9:45 and start the next day at 8:15

judy_

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

Actually....

you say he's worked nearer to 50 hours, but has he 'worked' 50 hours or has he been at work for 50 hours? has he been there for 10.5 hours a day with half an hour lunch, or has he been there for 10 hours a day with half an hours lunch?

He will of worked 50ish hours by end of this week (going by his shifts)

Yesterday he worked 14 hours with 30 mins break.