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cutandshut
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I was in a multi storey car park today and the signs all said:
CP Plus - Working on behalf of Welwyn Council.
How would this affect any penalty tickets/fines issued. Would they be enforced by the council or can they be ignored?
Conversely my local hospital car park is administered by the local council although it is NHS property. I've always assumed these are enforcible.
CP Plus - Working on behalf of Welwyn Council.
How would this affect any penalty tickets/fines issued. Would they be enforced by the council or can they be ignored?
Conversely my local hospital car park is administered by the local council although it is NHS property. I've always assumed these are enforcible.
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Read if the notice says 'parking charge notices' (fake) or 'penalty charge notices' (real) are issued there. Simples.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
Sorry, more information required. For example, what is it exactly that CP Plus do? Do they provide a back-office function or are they actually enforcing in the car park? Is the enforcement conducted within the terms of the Traffic Management Act 2004 as decriminalised enforcement? Are the tickets issued Excess Charge Notices, Penalty Charge Notices or Parking Charge Notices?My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016).
For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com0 -
Sorry, more information required. For example, what is it exactly that CP Plus do? Do they provide a back-office function or are they actually enforcing in the car park? Is the enforcement conducted within the terms of the Traffic Management Act 2004 as decriminalised enforcement? Are the tickets issued Excess Charge Notices, Penalty Charge Notices or Parking Charge Notices?
I haven't got a clue. I only parked there.0 -
And where would the money (and appeals) go to?
If they go to the council than it's a council-run car-park, if they go to CP Plus than it's a scammer-run car-park0 -
cutandshut wrote: »I haven't got a clue. I only parked there.
As HO87 posts, what matters is if they are acting for the council to enforce Penalty Charge Notices under the Traffic Management Act 2004 then it is a real PCN, or not! Some PPC's do legitimately offer CEO's services to council's to contract and they therefore can act under the TMA 2004 and as such they are giving out real PCN's... but of coursel the council still handles payment, the appeal process and of course, you can take them to adjudication if required.0 -
I'd be interested to here the outcome of this....
How can we find out the details in the post above. I would guess that it is the Hunters Bridge car park, details here:
http://www.welhat.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=3252
Does this imply that you need to pay a fine from one of these car parks?The birds of sadness may fly overhead but don't let them nest in your hair0 -
Dustykitten wrote: »I'd be interested to here the outcome of this....
How can we find out the details in the post above. I would guess that it is the Hunters Bridge car park, details here:
http://www.welhat.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=3252
Does this imply that you need to pay a fine from one of these car parks?
looks like a private parking company, and not acting for the council in an official capacity.
Q. What happens if I forget to pay?
A. You can pay on-line or by phone at anytime up until midnight of the day you parked. If payment is not received by midnight your address will be traced through the DVLA and a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) for £70 will be sent through the post.
http://www.welhat.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=3245Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?0 -
I will take a look over the next few days and see what the signs say in the car park."You should know not to believe everything in media & polls by now !"
John539 2-12-14 Post 150300 -
Thanks. A friend has recently been issued a Charge Notice from the Campus East Lower Car Park and I've said to hold off paying it whilst I try to help her. Do you know that car park too Trebor? I guess it is the one next to Waitrose?The birds of sadness may fly overhead but don't let them nest in your hair0
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Dustykitten wrote: »Thanks. A friend has recently been issued a Charge Notice from the Campus East Lower Car Park and I've said to hold off paying it whilst I try to help her. Do you know that car park too Trebor? I guess it is the one next to Waitrose?
Take a look at the ticket, if it says 'Parking Charge Notice' on it tell her to ignore it completely, if the appeals or payment is anyone bar the council, the same advice stands. Basically a private parking ticket should be ignored, all correspondence should be ignored, unless small claims court papers come through the door.Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?0
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