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How Much Money Have You Wasted On Rent?

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  • nollag2006
    nollag2006 Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    So you bought 2 flats @ £220k each in Jan 2009, in Ealing.

    Costs:

    £440k (purchase price)
    + £4.4k (stamp duty)
    + £2.5k - legals, searches, lease charges

    = £446.9k

    If you sold now:

    £490k (average chance in prices in Ealing)
    - £5k (EA charges)
    - £1 (legals)

    Profit - £39.1k

    Inflation has been 11.7% in the period from then until now. So the house price in Ealing has actually gone up less than inflation.

    Of course, had you put all your eggs in a different basket, gold has gone up from £580 / ounce in January 2009 to about £1,080 / ounce today, which means that if you'd spent your money on gold instead, it would have been worth about £830,000 today, or a profit nearly 10 x what you have actually made (and a profit rather easier to realise, at that).

    Oh dear - you don't quite get this do you?

    Let me walk through it nice and slow for you.

    Original deposit was £100k: £50k for each, based on a sum purchase cost of approx £448k (incl mortgage fees, SDLT, and legals).

    Mortgage was originally £348k

    Value today of each is approx £255-260k (based on neighbours that have recently sold in the same block).

    If I sold both today, I'd get back approx £510k (assuming no early redemption costs). Mortgage is now roughly £325k.

    So my original investment of £100k has now gone up to £185k!!!!

    :eek:

    Add to that rental yield has risen from just under 6% two years ago to over 7% now, and it's been a lovely little earner in terms of cash flow too!!

    What sort of yield is gold offering these days??

    :rotfl:
  • nollag2006
    nollag2006 Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    Emy1501 wrote: »
    In the current Market in most areas rent is no different to the interest paid on a mortgage you could argue their both dead money.


    Nonsense.

    Buying is cheaper than renting in the overwhelming majority of UK towns:
    http://money.uk.msn.com/news/money-n...ntid=158230800
  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Percy1983 wrote: »
    And sorry to keep bringing the same question up but you never seem to answer this one, can I have you thoughts on the following statement:

    "A real man never objectifies or belittles another to make himself look better."

    I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter too Percy. :rotfl:
    Percy1983 wrote: »
    Nope, its better that they dropped a little further so said FTB's can buy them instead of buying them for a parasite.
  • Percy1983
    Percy1983 Posts: 5,244 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Which bit concerns you Jonny? sorry if I have caused any offence.
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
    Son born 13/09/2015
    Started a second business 03/08/2013
    Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/2012
  • reweird
    reweird Posts: 281 Forumite
    edited 6 November 2011 at 6:14PM
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    More than likely the hypocritical bit Percy lad. Thank you for the apology.
  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Percy1983 wrote: »
    Which bit concerns you Jonny? sorry if I have caused any offence.

    Ah right. So I was right about you not being serious. Thing is, your mate reweird now knows this too.
    Good luck on calling him out on anything from now on.
  • Percy1983
    Percy1983 Posts: 5,244 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I suppose it does depend on your usage of the word belittle, I would usually use it as in trying to make somebody look small due to reasons mostly out of there control.

    So my reference of landlord = parasite maybe doesn't fit within that as they 100% choose to be landlords, but I will agree that maybe its not the best of phrases to use and had made the effort to cut that one out but do still slip occasionally.

    With that apparently I am still a mere baby so I am still learning.
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
    Son born 13/09/2015
    Started a second business 03/08/2013
    Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/2012
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    I'm looking forward to Reweirdo's next diatribe disguised as a bogus questionnaire.

    I reckon he has a little wee of excitement when he thinks one up.
  • nollag2006 wrote: »
    Value today of each is approx £255-260k (based on neighbours that have recently sold in the same block).

    Improbable, that. Because of the £250k stamp duty threshold, surely?
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Jimmy_31
    Jimmy_31 Posts: 2,170 Forumite
    kabayiri wrote: »
    I'm looking forward to Reweirdo's next diatribe disguised as a bogus questionnaire.

    I reckon he has a little wee of excitement when he thinks one up.

    So thats why he stinks of pi55, all makes sense now:)
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