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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    I think you should go raid the piggy bank and do a physical check .
    To help you: -

    They all put in £10, making £30 in total.
    They all get on pound back, making the effective kitty £27, with each friend having £1 in their pocket.
    The shop owner puts the £25 from the kitty into the till to balance the gun value (kitty now only £2)
    The shop owner pockets the £2 (kitty now £0)
    THERE IS NO MISSING POUND

    Now, from your definition, please explain: -

    How can anyone chip in £8.33333333?

    Your getting hung out to dry because your trying to total £30, instead of totalling £27 which is what the friends contributed to.

    Dearie me. Re read.

    The shopkeepr took a total of £30 from them. NOT 27. He RAN AFTER THEM to give them £3 back.

    Like watching a slow motion car crash :D

    You could however, if you are clever, twist your way out of this one by saying you read the question wrong, but that's the whoel point of a brain teaser ;)

    I'm getting hung out to dry!!! Oh I LOVE it!! :D:D
  • UrWntr
    UrWntr Posts: 227 Forumite
    Guys, seriously you're giving the same answer.
  • Dearie me. Re read.

    The shopkeepr took a total of £30 from them. NOT 27. He RAN AFTER THEM to give them £3 back.

    Like watching a slow motion car crash :D

    Your making the mistake of adding the shopkeepers £2 to the £27, instead of subtracting it.

    If you won't take it from me, try this link

    http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070212112402AApcFyr
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    UrWntr wrote: »
    Guys, seriously you're giving the same answer.

    Were really not.

    IN ISTL's definition, they only hand over to the shopkeeper £27 and walk out with £1 each.

    However, the question states they hand over £30 and walk away, with no leftover cash.
    A man wants to buy a gun. The gun he wants to buy is £30.
    The man only has £10, so he gets two of his friends to help out.
    All three go into the shop with £10, £30 in total and buy the gun.
    The store assistant realises his charged them £5 too much for it and runs after them.
    Realising he can make sum money, he pockets £2.
    He then catches up with them and gives them the remaining £3.
    That’s £1 for each of them.

    If they had only handed over £27, he wouldn't be able to pocket £2 and hand over £3. That totals £32. £2 more than what they had.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 2 November 2011 at 10:11PM
    Your making the mistake of adding the shopkeepers £2 to the £27, instead of subtracting it.

    No, I'm not. I've added the shopkeepers £2 to the £25. Re-read. Again. I Implicitly stated the math.

    I'm gonna sit back now.

    This is too much fun.

    Even your link states the item costs £25. Whats £25 divided by 3?!
  • UrWntr
    UrWntr Posts: 227 Forumite
    Were really not.

    IN ISTL's definition, they only hand over to the shopkeeper £27 and walk out with £1 each.

    However, the question states they hand over £30 and walk away, with no leftover cash.



    If they had only handed over £27, he wouldn't be able to pocket £2 and hand over £3. That totals £32. £2 more than what they had.

    !!!!!! graham I know you have trouble understanding house prices and the economy but this is basic stuff.

    You both agree that the actual cost of the item was £25, you're just saying it in different ways.
  • This is too much fun.

    Or.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNkp4QF3we8
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    edited 2 November 2011 at 10:15PM
    UrWntr wrote: »
    Guys, seriously you're giving the same answer.

    I don't believe we are and the fundamental difference is that each friend did not pay £8.333333, they paid £9 each.

    In essence Graham is confusing maths with the fundamentals of currency (how do you split 1 penny three ways?) It can't be done.

    They each paid £10 but then had £1 returned to them.
    They in essence paid £9 each with the shop taking the £25 and the owner pocketing the £2.
    THERE IS NO MISSING POUND
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    UrWntr wrote: »
    !!!!!! graham I know you have trouble understanding house prices and the economy but this is basic stuff.

    You both agree that the actual cost of the item was £25, you're just saying it in different ways.

    Yep.

    But the key is, ISTL's figures only come to £29.

    The question was, wheres the pound if £30 was handed over....which it was.

    Pimperne, I know you are reading this with a smile on your face, time to answer ;)
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    They in essence paid £9 each with the shop taking the £25 and the owner pocketing the £2.
    THERE IS NO MISSING POUND

    Your still totalling £29.

    They handed over £30.

    You silly boy.
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