BBC Thursday: The Future State of Welfare

Going4TheDream

olly300 wrote: »

You forget that employers don't like people who are long term unemployed.

If you were an employer would you prefer to employ someone who lost their job 6 weeks ago or someone who hadn't worked for 6 years?

I agree totally, and in the current economy more relevant than in previous years.

However previous governments failed to enforce its own rules/guidelines, and effectively allowed/encouraged the situation we see today allowing many people the choice to choose benefits over working.

Even though I kept a spreadsheet of all the jobs I had applied for, whether I'd received interviews, etc and printed it off and took it with me when I went to sign on, I was not once asked what I had done to look for work. Based on that it seems the only requirement to obtain your JSA is to turn up and sign for it at your allocated appointment time.

Jimmy_31

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

The key word is parenting.

I seem to see the mother who is busy texting, while the baby balls it head off, and the toddler runs amok in desperate attention seeking behaviour. If its lucky it gets a clip round the ear.

My thought is "why did you bother to have them"?.

More babies = more money + bigger free house + permanent time off from work.

2 benefit babies have died in this area and the next town in the last 18 months, deaths caused by beating and neglect from unfit mothers and fathers who just lock their baby in the bedroom as it crys too much

This happened because people who have no means to support or treat a child correctly are allowed to keep having babies for profit.

Going4TheDream

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

More babies = more money + bigger free house + permanent time off from work.

2 benefit babies have died in this area and the next town in the last 18 months, deaths caused by beating and neglect from unfit mothers and fathers who just lock their baby in the bedroom as it crys too much

This happened because people who have no means to support or treat a child correctly are allowed to keep having babies for profit.

''And I am sure the system ensured that those responsible got the 'slap' on the wrist they'' 'deserved' .........................................

Ilya_Ilyich

should we introduce breeding licences then or just make sure poors who have children get really poor instead?

Jimmy_31

Going4TheDream wrote: »

''And I am sure the system ensured that those responsible got the 'slap' on the wrist they'' 'deserved' .........................................

I think they both got suspended sentences in the end, used the i had a bad childhood so its not my fault defense.

Jimmy_31

Ilya_Ilyich wrote: »

should we introduce breeding licences then or just make sure poors who have children get really poor instead?

If you want to breed dogs in britain you have to apply for a licence.

If you want to breed human beings you just go ahead and breed.

Going4TheDream

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

I think they both got suspended sentences in the end, used the i had a bad childhood so its not my fault defense.

I can totally believe that... I am not sure what is worse that they felt they had no responsibility, and it was 'someone else's fault or that the judge actually bought it ....

Ilya_Ilyich

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

If you want to breed dogs in britain you have to apply for a licence.

If you want to breed human beings you just go ahead and breed.

so poors are should be the same as dogs?

Jimmy_31

Going4TheDream wrote: »

I can totally believe that... I am not sure what is worse that they felt they had no responsibility, and it was 'someone else's fault or that the judge actually bought it ....

The only negative effect the nonces recieved was being moved to another area to their next free house.

Jimmy_31

Ilya_Ilyich wrote: »

so poors are the same as dogs?

People who cannot afford to bring up a child should not have a child.

People who spend a lifetime voluntary claiming benefits should never be allowed to have children.