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Abbafan1972

A friends of mine's Mom, recently paid a £50 deposit for dog, a terrier type or something and they were based in Wales apparently.

She has since changed her mind though and they did pay her the deposit back!

Me personally, I would prefer to go to a rescue centre, rather than line some of these greedy peoples' pockets.

giantmutantbroccoli

Breeding more than one, or at most two, different breeds of dog is a sure sign that they are running a puppy farm and doing it for the money. To breed responsibly takes a lot of time, money, effort and knowledge of the breed. The chances that someone could breed several different breeds responsibly is very, very small. If you are after a particular breed, but not too bothered about paperwork or pedigree, a breed-specific rescue is a good way to go. Alternatively, if you are bothered about pedigree and might be interested in showing later on, go through the Kennel Club to get details of registered breeders and start from there.

Best of luck to you in finding the right pup from the right people, it's a real minefield out there. A friend of mine bought a "pedigree Labrador" pup last year, paid the usual price and was happy with the way the breeders were treating their animals etc... Several months later it turns out the poor dog has a whole host of inherited diseases that will mean expensive vet bills for the rest of his life. It's a real shame because he's a lovely dog too.

catswhiskers4

I have to say that genuine breeders do use Pets 4 Homes too. When I was getting another Burmese cat, the Burmese Cat Club put me in touch with a wonderful breeder and she was also advertising on Pets 4 Homes.

jojo2910

Thank all, I've found some more links in other posts with rescue details, so we'll look at them too.

suki1964

giantmutantbroccoli wrote: »

Alternatively, if you are bothered about pedigree and might be interested in showing later on, go through the Kennel Club to get details of registered breeders and start from there.

Best of luck to you in finding the right pup from the right people, it's a real minefield out there. A friend of mine bought a "pedigree Labrador" pup last year, paid the usual price and was happy with the way the breeders were treating their animals etc... Several months later it turns out the poor dog has a whole host of inherited diseases that will mean expensive vet bills for the rest of his life. It's a real shame because he's a lovely dog too.

I wouldnt rely on the KC for a list of breeders - commercial breeders get on their lists as there are no checks done.

If looking for a pedigree go through the breed club for the breed. The breed club know whos how. They know who to avoid, they know who will be breeding and most of all they are a wealth of information and support to owners

Im so sorry for your friend Im sure she has a lovely dog, but once again, a litter has been bred with inherent health problems.Where as your friend is not likely to breed, whos to say one of the litter mates isnt used for breeding down the line.

Most reputable breeders put endorsements on their pups - stopping any litters being registered by the KC. This ( supposedly) stops bad breeding as only the breeder can remove the endorsement and the breeder only will remove it if the breeding has been ok'd by him/her - health and genetic checks being done.

Those that can not be KC registered are being DL registered so that a seller can say " registered pedigree pups" and command a high premium. Unfortunately the DL means nothing to the health and welfare of the dog

AliceJenkins

Person_one wrote: »

Would you be willing to consider a rescue dog?

Yeah but puppies are so much fun!

AliceJenkins

giantmutantbroccoli wrote: »

A friend of mine bought a "pedigree Labrador" pup last year, paid the usual price and was happy with the way the breeders were treating their animals etc... Several months later it turns out the poor dog has a whole host of inherited diseases that will mean expensive vet bills for the rest of his life. It's a real shame because he's a lovely dog too.

What it hip dysplasia? because even checks done on the parents would not necessarily help. Labs are just very prone to it.

suki1964

AliceJenkins wrote: »

What it hip dysplasia? because even checks done on the parents would not necessarily help. Labs are just very prone to it.

If parents, grandparents and gg grandparents have all been tested and have low scores and not developed dysplasia, you can assume that the pup you are buying is less likely to develop it

This is why 5 generation paper work is the norm

Person_one

AliceJenkins wrote: »

Yeah but puppies are so much fun!

Puppies come into rescues all the time, hundreds of 'em! No shortage of rescue pups.

They might be fun, but they're hard work too and its important not to underestimate how hard, because that's how they end up as adult rescue dogs that people don't want because they aren't 'so much fun' anymore.

Paradigm

Abbafan1972 wrote: »

Me personally, I would prefer to go to a rescue centre, rather than line some of these greedy peoples' pockets.

Which greedy people? If you are referring to puppy farmers then fair play but don't tar every breeder with the same brush!