Parking eye **fine** pls help!!!!!

Coupon-mad

arcon5 wrote: »

Sure it's easier than finding somewhere else to park.


It's also pig ignorant, selfish and disrespectful to whomever owns the land that people are using as they wish.

In most cases landowners are employing these companies with their ridiculous scare tactics because shoppers are bending them over a barrell -- and the ones that know factually they are unenforcable continue taking the p* and compeltey disregarding the rules.

People are all to quick to slam the company issuing the fine --- but yet so quick to overlook WHY the "fine" was issued in the first place.

No, most cases on here are not 'landowners' anyway. It's usually occupiers such as Supermarkets, and they are NOT 'employing' the PPCs at all.

What happens in most cases is that the suits who own/manage the PPC firm approach the retailers and say 'we can solve your parking problems for free, guv'. A bit like a protection racket - there is no real thought process behind it as far as the Supermarket is concerned - the PPC approach the Supermarket and 'talk the talk' because that's what they do. And the retailers fall for it because they may have had odd complaints about people parking in disabled bays without a blue badge or something. So the Supermarket idiot pen-pusher at Head Office thinks, 'that's a good idea, it won't cost anything...'

What the Supermarkets do not realise is that:

- a Blue Badge is not needed on private land because the facility of a disabled bay is there for anyone who meets the definition of disability

- PPCs cannot issue fines anyway

- PPCs' agenda is money, not parking management

- in the long run the PPCs will chase customers away

It will all take time but in the end some retailers will realise what they are doing by allowing this scam to take place in their name.

arcon5

Again..........

this isn't about the company issuing these fines, it's about the land ownerss and people abusing the rules. The main issue is overlooked over and over again.

- it's their land
- it's their rules
- people abuse them knowing full well there is no consequence

Whether it's unenforcable or not, in 99% of cases around here, the person at fault is the motorist. Why should people be allowed to leave their car for the day in a supermarket carpark whilst they go into the town/city? Why should people pay for 3 hours parking then turn up 4 hours later? This list goes on.

You couldn't go in Subway to eat your boots meal deal, or take your Eskimoo and sit in starbucks or take a pint of large into Cafe Nero. You'd be asked to leave (and rightly so), it's their establishment -- no different to carparks.

Coupon-mad

arcon5 wrote: »

Again..........

this isn't about the company issuing these fines, it's about the land ownerss and people abusing the rules. The main issue is overlooked over and over again.

- it's their land
- it's their rules
- people abuse them knowing full well there is no consequence

Nope. 99% of the time it's not 'their land'. We are not talking about 'landowners' being 'abused'. We are not talking about people rocking up like travellers and dumping their cars!

And very few people would overstay at a Supermarket on purpose! Often it's just because they have had coffee/lunch (in the facility provided by the Supermarket) or maybe because they are disabled and so should be allowed longer to shop. Or maybe the shop is busy, or maybe they were browsing.

Heinous crimes (not)! Abuse (not!).

You really are protesting far too much about 'landowners' being 'abused' whereas I cannot recall a thread on here which portrays that scenario at all.

Kite2010

So Arcon if you parked your car 1mm on the white line would you pay the penalty of £80 demanded by some PPCs?

hillcats

Ignore is the best word for any junk mail from PE

Sirdan

hillcats wrote: »

Ignore is the best word for any junk mail from PE

Ignore is the best word for any junk post from arcon5.

hendenne

Whilst I have heard the rumour about Arcon I cannot believe it to be true, but at the same time I do not understand how anyone with any knowledge of the crazy tactics employed by Parking Eye (and others) can continue to blindly defend those companies.

In October we spent 1 week in a coastal town and used probably 15 different car parks, always paying and taking a ticket. On this 'Parking Eye' occasion I had entered a practically empty car park in a tourist location off-season in October.

I had purchased a 1 hour ticket and left after 1 hour, or so I thought. Yes, we sat in the car for a few minutes, as it was quite windy, before deciding to stay. Yes, we parked 300 meters inside the entrance to the car parking area so it took time to drive in, decide where to park and drive out. But, in line with normal car park policies, we left after being there for 1 hour. Having purchased a ticket I was unaware that this was a photo-in photo-out car park.

I then received a Parking Eye letter demanding £90 or £60 if paid within 14 days for having been in the car park for 1 hour and 8 minutes "having not paid or having over stayed".. perhaps an 8 minutes overstay.. BUT the PENALTY they were wanting to impose was totally out of proportion. I was so incensed I was prepared to push for this to go to court and waste several hundred pounds in preparation as I felt that no reasonable person/judge would consider £90 to be a reasonable charge.

I then read about 'compensation of loss' and 'no penalty unless guilty'. I read about the BPA code of practise and how such excessive hustling claims are a breach of that code. and I read and read... and decided not to respond to any threatening letters, however threatening.

Arcon is either not a car park user or fails to understand the dishonest nature of some of these car park operators. I cannot believe that he/she is a frontperson for the dark side of the BPA and it's hustler members. Not all BPA members act badly.

I do agree with Arcon that parkers should understand the conditions under which they park and I certainly will do in future but having purchased a ticket I did not realise I was in a danger area. AND there were no signs at the entry to the car park warning of cameras and penalties, maybe there were signs placed elsewhere but none caught my eye.

However, now that Parking Eye have been so outrageous I am now also very much tempted to park and ignore, and to encourage others to do so, just to stuff the system .. but I probably won't.

So Arcon, are you really a con or have you just not understood the problem, have you missed the parking plot?

ruby25a

My daughter has recieved Parking eye letter demanding payment. She is a student at university with no means to pay the £120 fine ,they are now demanding. We have ignored previous 2 letters as suggested on various forums, but its the threat of Baliffs & CCJ that are now really concerning me. She was 8 mins over the allocated time limit, not sure if it was her or her boyfriend driving car. She is also a learner driver, so if it was her driving, she is only a novice to the learning skills of parking. Any advice welcome....I dont want to encourage her into ignoring payments if this is a legal company. ??

hendenne

ruby25a wrote: »

My daughter has recieved Parking eye letter demanding payment. She is a student at university with no means to pay the £120 fine ,they are now demanding. We have ignored previous 2 letters as suggested on various forums, but its the threat of Baliffs & CCJ that are now really concerning me. She was 8 mins over the allocated time limit, not sure if it was her or her boyfriend driving car. She is also a learner driver, so if it was her driving, she is only a novice to the learning skills of parking. Any advice welcome....I dont want to encourage her into ignoring payments if this is a legal company. ??

Hi, like you I am a Newbie at this. 2 years ago I paid a £40 ticket incurred when my wife shopped too long and the local Lidl park time had reduced from 2 hrs to 1.5hrs. Like you are now I was then intimidated by the threatening letters of Parking Eye.

However, when last month I received, just like you, a letter demanding £90 for an 8 minutes overstay I got mad and did lots of research on Google. Amongst other sites I found these threads of Martin Lewis. Such good information, I suggest you read through this thread and you will find your answers and some strength.

I have today received the 3rd letter from PE and will IGNORE and NOT RESPOND to any of them whatever they threaten.. it is simple cheating bullying hustling.

On this thread Private Parking Companies' Letters: What to Expect you will see many parking companies trying the same bullying tactics, and all failing IF we understand the system and DO NOT RESPOND.

No doubt others better qualified, like SIRDAN, will also encourage you to SIT TIGHT and NOT RESPOND. good luck.

Sirdan

ruby25a wrote: »

My daughter has recieved Parking eye letter demanding payment. She is a student at university with no means to pay the £120 fine ,they are now demanding. We have ignored previous 2 letters as suggested on various forums, but its the threat of Baliffs & CCJ that are now really concerning me. She was 8 mins over the allocated time limit, not sure if it was her or her boyfriend driving car. She is also a learner driver, so if it was her driving, she is only a novice to the learning skills of parking. Any advice welcome....I dont want to encourage her into ignoring payments if this is a legal company. ??

IGNORE them totally , you don't owe them anything let alone £120 ..although it may seem "wrong" you must IGNORE all their threats because that is all they are, they will (99.99999999%) not take you to court.
Can you imagine what a court would make of a claim for £120 for 8 mins in a FREE car park ?