Need help confuse

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Hi all,
Right i have been married a month and now back off my honeymoon so iin the process of changing my name.. I have taken my wife name but on the marrage cert it says my old name and the wife orignal name!! Now im being told i need to change my name by deed poll by the bank and work... i was told this wasnt needed can someone plese tell me what i have to do as if the wife took my name she wouldnt need a deedpoll.. also the bank says it wasnt possible for me to take her name on??? think she stupid
Thanks in advance

flutterby_lil

Never been married but I guessed the new name would be given and stated on the marriage certificate!

4nnabella

No, the names on the marriage certificate are that by which each person is known at the time.

There is some info here
http://www.weddingguideuk.com/articles/legal/changingnamemarriage.asp

A woman does not need to do a deed poll change following marriage if she wants to take her husband's name, as the marriage certificate itself is the legal documentation required to notify banks, DVLA etc that she wishes to be known by a new name.

Technically, if a man wishes to take his wife's name then legally, he does not need to change it by deed poll either, but it speeds things up if he does.

Info from UK Deed Poll Service website here:
http://www.ukdps.co.uk/AMansRightsUponMarriage.html

essentially, this:
If, following your marriage, you wish to double-barrel your surname with your wife's surname, or take your wife's surname, a Deed Poll is often required. Although some companies and organisations will change their records to your new double-barrelled surname, or to your wife's surname, upon presentation of your marriage certificate, many will not, particularly the financial institutions e.g. banks and building societies. A Deed Poll will guarantee that your new surname will be accepted by everyone without question. Please note, government departments, including the Passport Office and DVLA accept marriage certificates as documentary evidence of a man changing his surname to a double-barrelled surname or for a man taking his wife's surname. The only way to find out if you need a Deed Poll to get your non-government documents and records changed is to contact, for example, your bank, building society, credit card company and mortgage company etc and ask what their policy is for changing your surname upon marriage.

Mojisola

The marriage certificate has your pre-marriage name on it because that's who got married. Name changes don't happen until after you're married.

Most organisations are quite happy to accept a woman's change of name after seeing a marriage certificate. As you're doing something different, you can expect difficulties.

You can be known by any name you wish. You can change it officially or you can just notify everyone that from such-and-such a date you wish to known by the new name.

[Deleted User]

flutterby_lil wrote: »

Never been married but I guessed the new name would be given and stated on the marriage certificate!

No new names does not apper on ur Marrage cert... lol you find out when or if you get marrige

nzmegs

This is just an example of a rule which has been put in place under old ways of thinking. it seems that they want to make it as easy as possible for women to change their name to their husbands, but not for the man to do the same.

I would put pressure on the bank to accept the marriage certificate as your legal right to choose the name you wish to go by. If they continue to refuse, take it to a higher up person within the bank. Fight this - don't give in, because it is clearly unfair and just panders to sexual stereotypes.

Well done for being willing to step outside the box and do something different., Not many men seem to be willing to lose their identity (name wise) yet women are expected to do it all the time.

I chose to simply add my husbands name to mine and double barrel it. the bank was fine with that.

natbags

we have taken both (double barrel) and didnt need to change by deed poll for banks and other institutions etc, just copies of marriage certificate to everybody. We did then have a problem though when it came to selling the house as we were not the 'same named' people who bought it iyswim
so for the sale to go through we did then have to change by deed poll, but wasn't a problem to do hth

claire16c

nzmegs wrote: »

This is just an example of a rule which has been put in place under old ways of thinking. it seems that they want to make it as easy as possible for women to change their name to their husbands, but not for the man to do the same.

I would put pressure on the bank to accept the marriage certificate as your legal right to choose the name you wish to go by. If they continue to refuse, take it to a higher up person within the bank. Fight this - don't give in, because it is clearly unfair and just panders to sexual stereotypes.

Well done for being willing to step outside the box and do something different., Not many men seem to be willing to lose their identity (name wise) yet women are expected to do it all the time.

I chose to simply add my husbands name to mine and double barrel it. the bank was fine with that.

I agree, infact Im sure I read somewhere that its free for a woman to get a deedpoll following a marriage, but not a man! Surely that should be illegal?

Me and my husband have also both taken each other names - double barrel and we simply showed the bank our marriage certificate and asked them to change the name on our accounts, which they did.

You do not have to do a deedpoll. Their website only suggest you do it because thats how they make their money! I would go back to the bank and try and see someone else, and see what happens. Dont even bring up the problem you had before. Maybe you just got a particular idiot that day.

If they refuse, I would simply tell them you are closing the account. Maybe theyll change their minds then!

You can apply for a new driving license with the DVLA with your marriage certificate, (just sent mine and my DHs off in the post last week) and then use that as your new ID with your new name on when it comes back. Then open a new bank account.

They should make here more like the law in the US, we got married there and on the certificate you write your 'old' name and your name you want to be called after marriage. That is then officially your new name. So we actually have both names on our certificate.

Seanymph

Can I ask why you are taking her name not retaining your own or her taking yours?

It doesn't matter for your question - but I'm nosy!

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Seanymph wrote: »

Can I ask why you are taking her name not retaining your own or her taking yours?

It doesn't matter for your question - but I'm nosy!

It was my step name when my mother married him... he been in my life for 25 years but never got on with him & still dont and no reason to take his name.. Wife wanted to double barral it cos she wanted to keep her name i said no i got no reason to keep this name i take yours.. simple.. but seems alot of hassle now.. beside im always diffrent than the rest of the family lol i support man utd the rest support liverpool lol most been married kept there name aprt from the sister but i wanted to be diffrent.. Nowt to do with getting away from debt or anything like that.. Mother wasnt too happy about it but oh well im still her fav son

Debbie_A_3

Iain79 wrote: »

Hi all,
Right i have been married a month and now back off my honeymoon so iin the process of changing my name.. I have taken my wife name but on the marrage cert it says my old name and the wife orignal name!! Now im being told i need to change my name by deed poll by the bank and work... i was told this wasnt needed can someone plese tell me what i have to do as if the wife took my name she wouldnt need a deedpoll.. also the bank says it wasnt possible for me to take her name on??? think she stupid
Thanks in advance

Hi Iain,

The Law in England and Wales states that you can call yourself what you like, but sooner or later you are going to need evidence to satisfy officialdom. The easiest way is via a Statutory Declaration. This shouldn't cost you anything, though the passport office (and DVLA?) will want it to be witnessed by a solicitor or magistrate (who may well charge for their time).

There is more information and a specimen form here:
http://www.lgym.org.uk/transweb/namechange.html
(Name changing is a particular issue for trans people)

Be wary of commercial organisations who will add all sorts of fees for doing very little.

The CAB offer advice here:
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_family/family_index_ew/change_of_name.htm#ofchangeof

It is wrong and unfair that the marriage certificate alone is sufficient evidence for a woman to change her name on marriage, but a man needs further evidence. But I guess that it just isn't worth the hassle for anyone to fight the inequality

Best wishes
Debbie