new tyres - advice

Any

Michelin is not on offer at mytyres.co.uk.
The 5% savings on my 6k miles a year is not really going to make much difference either... I live in the hills and I would rather put an all season tyres on my car then Michelin energy saving tyre.

Yeah, I understand the idea of difference between winter and summer tyre and I can see where all weather tyre comes from.. Given that there is not much difference in the price between summer and all weather tyre I think that I would rather take the compromise (ie slightly better thread and compound for winter vs slightly longer stopping distance in summer) over the stress of summer tyres on snow.

I do know what you are saying about putting unknown make on my car though.. that is why I am asking. Just because it is unknown to me doesn't mean it is completely unknown, though it starts to look like it in this case, doesn't it.

Edit: found them. £75 before fitting. I think I would rather the Bridgestone or Nokian

Any

andygb wrote: »

So, you have a front wheel drive car, with winter tyres on the rear, and standard tyres on the front with no traction in the ice and snow.
How do you pull away on ice/snow when the drive wheels have no traction?
How do you avoid going straight on at bends when you turn the steering wheel, because the front tyres have no grip?
The answer is to put winter tyres all round on a rear wheel drive car, and on the front wheels if you really have to on a front wheel drive car.
Best to put a whole set on to be safe and sure.

That is what I was thinking at first, but thought maybe there is some trick I don't know of...

andygb

Any wrote: »

That is what I was thinking at first, but thought maybe there is some trick I don't know of...

Well, to test the theory out, you could try the following, but it may well hurt.
Back when I was a young, fit colt, free of the excess lard which good living encourages, I used to cycle in all weathers. One night in the Winter, I noticed that I had a flat front tyre, so being in a hurry, I simply changed wheels, so that one of my nice, slick 20mm Summer racing wheels was on the front.
I got on the bike, set off, and then braked for the end of the road. After sliding across the road in a straight line, both bike and my good self ended up in a heap on the pavement opposite.
Possibly my shortest training run ever, but a valuable lesson learned.
Now there may be a moral to the story:
Never do half a job!

Any

andygb wrote: »

Well, to test the theory out, you could try the following, but it may well hurt.
Back when I was a young, fit colt, free of the excess lard which good living encourages, I used to cycle in all weathers. One night in the Winter, I noticed that I had a flat front tyre, so being in a hurry, I simply changed wheels, so that one of my nice, slick 20mm Summer racing wheels was on the front.
I got on the bike, set off, and then braked for the end of the road. After sliding across the road in a straight line, both bike and my good self ended up in a heap on the pavement opposite.
Possibly my shortest training run ever, but a valuable lesson learned.
Now there may be a moral to the story:
Never do half a job!

Presumably, if you were driving on ice with back summer tyre and got a bend in speed your back would loose it and you would end up in a ditch anyway.
So I think the moral of the story is to drive according to conditions and the car/tyres you are driving.
Putting 4 new tyres on and throwing two completely good tyres away is just not thinkable at the moment. I am not made of money.

mikey72

Any wrote: »

Presumably, if you were driving on ice with back summer tyre and got a bend in speed your back would loose it and you would end up in a ditch anyway.
So I think the moral of the story is to drive according to conditions and the car/tyres you are driving.
Putting 4 new tyres on and throwing two completely good tyres away is just not thinkable at the moment. I am not made of money.

That's the answer.
When it snows, drive like you have 4 summer tyres on snow, and you'll be pleasently surprised with two winter tyres.

grizzly1911

Strider590 wrote: »

Hmmmm.... Whilst I understand what your saying, this isn't a good idea.
Most FWD cars (with the exception of 1990-2001 Peugeots) will not over-steer unless you drive like an absolute tw4t.

Voice of experience?;)

grizzly1911

Not sure what car you are driving or what your style is like.

But providing you don't drive like a twonk and you only do 6K a year , in a reasonably standard wagon, then I doubt you would notice much difference with your first choice.

If you live in the wilds maybe get some chains for the really bad snow?

Yes someone will always say "but you stop 2m quicker" or "you can't pull away" or "they are ditch finders" adapt to the conditions and drive sensibly within you limitations (which may mean not driving at all) and I am sure you will be fine.

Any

Hi, my car is Suzuki Swift and so far I survived 3 winters with the original tyres the car was bought with (original tyres).
I did my driving licence abroad in the snow so I do know a bit about driving in the snow (in one of the countries where you have to have certain amount of driven hours before they even consider giving you a licence and winter tyres are required by law, which makes it much easier as you don't need to search for garage who will swap you "used" tyres twice a year!!!).

That is also why I quite thought through the choice of all season tyres and just 2 for now. Just worried about the make I don't know much about!!

grizzly1911

Any wrote: »

Hi, my car is Suzuki Swift and so far I survived 3 winters with the original tyres the car was bought with (original tyres).
I did my driving licence abroad in the snow so I do know a bit about driving in the snow (in one of the countries where you have to have certain amount of driven hours before they even consider giving you a licence and winter tyres are required by law, which makes it much easier as you don't need to search for garage who will swap you "used" tyres twice a year!!!).

Good to hear, with that experience - IMO you would be fine on your original find.

sunshinetours

Some of teh Nokian all seasosns get good reviews I believe and should be good for the majority of our winter. When it proerply snows you may find you are not much better on hills than decent summer tyres though - depends on why you want them. If you have to get out and about even if weather is awful then buy winters, if not and you can sit out the worst weather then buy all seasons or decent summers and a pair of snow socks in the boot

Ideally buy 4 the same and sell your two decent ones on ebay to fund it