Britons are 'lazy' and 'addicted to benefits', China claims

Going4TheDream

undetterred wrote: »

Don't forget they eat our canine friends also.

And boil animals alive for their skin to make fake Ugg's.

chewmylegoff

smartn wrote: »

Agree we don't want to start a trade war but could we in any way impose a higher rate of VAT on luxury goods such as TV's, game consoles, phones etc. Probably too expensive to implement I suspect.

no. we're only allowed to have 3 different rates of VAT as per EU law, and we already have 0%, 5% and 20%.

chewmylegoff

crazyguy wrote: »

This is very strange statement to make as when employed you normaly earn a wage unless it is charity work.

of course. but if the wage is less than, the same as, or only marginally more than the benefits you earn by not working, then there isn't a financial incentive to work.

The_White_Horse

irrespective of their politics - he is right that the majority of Brits are lazy. Boris was saying yesterday "why are so many immigrants employed by Pret" and he is right - you never see any Brits employed by Pret, or Starbucks or whatever in London. The answer is, because they can't be bothered. They would rather claim their dole money. BUT most importantly, the Brits see working in Pret as beneath them. This is the culture we have. If you're a brain surgeon, you can live in a nice home and buy ipads etc - but, if you are an uneductaed cretin you are entitled to the same lifestyle. this is the ridiculous culture we have. everyone is entitled to everything, and everything NOW.

until this changes, we are doomed.

maybe the answer in the long term is to ban credit altogether except for (a) homes (b) cars and (c) businesses. Maybe we should not be "entitled" to credit for holidays or for clothes. Maybe people should save for these things.

crazyguy

chewmylegoff wrote: »

of course. but if the wage is less than, the same as, or only marginally more than the benefits you earn by not working, then there isn't a financial incentive to work.

I suppose I see that, but to be frank if it were me in a position of claiming benefits and the option to work came up with little difference in finanacial gain then I would rather be employed than claim any benefits.

But for me it is more of a pride thing.

abaxas

crazyguy wrote: »

This is very strange statement to make as when employed you normaly earn a wage unless it is charity work.

You earn money, but that doesnt mean you get more than if you didnt.

That is the problem.

jojo1964

Lets go back to social security being a safety net and not a lifestyle choice, ensure fraudulent claiming is villified and made as socially unacceptable as drink driving, and maybe bring in a scheme that some states in America had whereby if you have a child, and are not working, you get a set amount of money, and are told have more kids if you want but you wont get extra money or a bigger property, perhaps by bringing in schemes such as this, the savings could be used to help the genuine needy cases.

Joe_Bloggs

There is madness and :- ...

maybe the answer in the long term is to ban credit altogether except for (a) homes (b) cars and (c) businesses. Maybe we should not be "entitled" to credit for holidays or for clothes. Maybe people should save for these things.

Who would sit in judgement as to whether a credit application was appropriate ? Why are cars ahead of business ? What of season ticket loans ? Loans for bicycles. Loans for education. Loans for medical treatment etc ... ?


J_B.

The_White_Horse

exactly, it should be a safety net - and should be more taylored to individual needs. what safety net is it for a man with a family of 5 who has worked for 20 years and is earning £5000 a month - to suddenly get £400 a month or whatever it is. This person should have a safety net in line with what he needs for 3-6 months in order to find suitable employment/ get his finances in order - and then, after 6 months, should get nothing. If he has large mortgage payments, large bills, kids in pvt school etc etc then there is no safety net for him. There is only a continual safety blanket for the people happy to live like that forever.

atush

crazyguy wrote: »

I would rather live in a Country that as he put is lazy rather than a Country where you cannot have free speech.

Why does a country with Free Speech choose to be Lazy?