Calling Ted Hutchinson!

Ted_Hutchinson

Before I start on my vitamins and supplement suggestions for moneysaving wannabe parents I'd like to draw you attention to

Melatonin hormone profile in infertile males.

Weston Price Fertility Awareness, Food, and Night-Lighting

Effects of melatonin in perimenopausal and menopausal women: a randomized and placebo controlled study.

Melatonin-dependent infertility.
Effects of melatonin on the ovarian response to pinealectomy or continuous light in female rats: similarity with polycystic ovary syndrome.

Melatonin and its role in human reproduction
I feel it may be the case that too many younger people go to bed too late, don't sleep in totally dark bedrooms and also don't get up early in the morning or get outside into bright light soon enough.

Ideally you should have as many hours sleep before midnight as after but I realise getting up at five in the morning is not going to be popular. However there isn't any reason why you shouldn't apply the following regime

1. From 8pm only use subdued lighting
2. Go to bed as early as you can before 10pm if possible.
3. Eliminate all light from the bedroom including digital clocks/radio displays etc
4. Ensure the curtains are closed and shut out any street lighting completely.
5. Don't put the light on at all during the night. If you need the loo then feel your way or use a very dim torch.
6. Wake up to light, maybe borrow one of those Sunrise Alarm
7. Have something as bright as this Tasklight in your kitchen to make sure you breakfast in a room as bright as you can possibly bear.

While the evidence shows dealing with Vitamin D insufficiency by using an effective amount to raise your status is the most cost effective way of dealing with SAD, in this case getting your ovulatory cycle operating properly depends to some extent on having Melatonin at night and No Melatonin during the Day. So encouraging Melatonin production in the evening and during the night by the measures detailed above and switching it off by increasing use of bright light early in the day may do just this.

But remember I have no medical qualifications or experience and this is not, cannot be considered medical advice but it may be moneysaving. As it isn't going to cost much.

Cooperation

Beatrix_Kiddo wrote:

Ted, I need you to guide me through the maze of info out there on the internet.

What supplements, lifestyle advice etc etc is scientifically recommended to increase fertility and the chance of conception?

There are tons of sites out there with info, but I cannot see what is fact, and what is old wives tale.

Please help!

(PS this is moneysaving as it's got to be cheaper than IVF lol)

Good gracious me! You invite the world (on this virtually unregulated forum) to comment on your infertility?

Just read this article: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20169-2038631,00.html and avoid the dangers (and expense) of inexpert advice!

Ted_Hutchinson

Life Extension suggestions.

• Avoid cigarettes and all tobacco products
• Avoid alcohol, or at least no more than two drinks/day
• Increase consumption of organically grown fruits and vegetables, especially cruciferous vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower and brussel sprouts
• Increase consumption of food containing essential fatty acids, such as wild (not farm-raised) salmon, mackerel, sardines, nuts, avocados and olives)
• Dairy products in moderation, and only from organic sources that do not use hormones, pesticides or herbicides

• Daily antioxidant complex that includes 250 to 500 mg of vitamin C (best in time relese formulations) and
• 400 to 800 I.U. of vitamin E (in the form of mixed tocopherols and toco-trienols)Holland and Barrett £2.90 100 @200i.u
• Zinc-30 mg/day to no more than 60mg/day
• Selenium-200 mcg/day
• Arginine-2 to 4 gms/day
• Daily Vitamin B complex that contains at least 400 mcg of folic acid
• Carnitine (either L-carnitine or acetyl-l-carnitine) 500 to 1000 mg three times a day £7.45 90@500mg
• CoQ-10 30 to 100 mg/day

Proposed Treatments for Male Infertility
Lycopene Fights Infertility: article
This study demonstrates that spermatozoa of asthenozoospermic men have lower levels of PUFA compared with saturated fatty acids Cod Liver Oil Liquid - St Clements
The role of food supplements in the treatment of the infertile man.

It's amazing what you learn on these hunts for information. I found this fascinating I suspect (just thinking aloud) that this may explain why Sperm have Vit D receptors. I know this paper applies to animals but I bet a similar process of seminal signalling applies to humans as well.
Please regard this a work in progress. I'll probably add more as I find it. Will now start on the other half.

Jarring Result: Extreme biking can hurt men's fertility

Ted_Hutchinson

Vitamin d may play a role


Vitamin D and calcium dysregulation in the polycystic ovarian syndrome.

Natural Solutions to Infertility

Role of oxidative stress in female reproduction.

To add to the above information about Vitamin d3 shows the importance of Vitamin d status at the time of conception is reflected in the Risk of Preterm Birth.
As it costs so little to have the same vit d status in Winter as in Summer the frequency of this possible adverse outcome may be reduced.
BIO-TECH Pharmacal Inc.The best source for vitamin D3 cholecalciferol

Ted_Hutchinson

Cooperation wrote:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20169-2038631,00.html and avoid the dangers (and expense) of inexpert advice!

I do wish journalists and those reporting as facts their rantings would take the trouble to check their sources before they write tripe. A few seconds will find more than one citation and simply supports the overheating theory as one of the causes of poor sperm quality.

Edit: As I don't want to take this thread off topic with an unnecessary argument with the author of #17 I would like to point out Suzi Godson says

common myths are often derived from obscure studies that have little or no relevance to him or his life.
For example, infertile men are often advised not to wear Y-fronts because they heat up the testicles, but as it turns out, this information originated from a small Dutch study showing that tight leather trousers and tight plastic underpants negatively affected sperm quality, but only when worn together, not alone.

While it is true that this effect may be overstated, a reading of all the papers on this topic, not just one, will be sufficient to convinced a less biased reader that there is some truth behind the advice to not get that area overheated either by wearing polyester, tight underpants or spending too long in a sedentary position. The process of spermatogenesis liberates significant heat and the scrotum has a role in body thermoregulation. shows the argument is not over.
The cost implications are insignificant, the risks nill, so given no risk/no cost the best bet option is not to pay attention to lazy journalists who don't check their sources and don't present balanced conclusions.

Further Edit here as I don't want this thread to be derailed by arguing a trivial point arising from this comment " You have read them all! I am impressed!". Why can't you see that you don't have to read all of them to see there are sufficient papers by reputable scientists considering the matter of scrotum temperature and it's affect on sperm, to correct the reports claim that this is simply myth and/or has little or no relevance.
It follows that information leading men to avoid getting overheated is potentially more useful than implying, erroneously, that this is simply myth and/or has little or no relevance.

I only believe stuff that has good up to date scientific research to support it. Most of the information I provide comes from Pubmed If you regard the latest science as ghobbledegook or phony' I really don't know why you bother to read my posts. Try using the User CP Buddy / Ignore Lists facility it saves a lot of irritation.

shokadelika

Cooperation wrote:

I think a journalist on a well-respected newspaper will take time to research before writing such an article. At no time does the Times journalist claim that overheating does not affect sperm quality. He simply makes reference to research that show tight underpants alone does not affect sperm quality. At no point does he state that overheating does not reduce sperm quality!



The Journalist you refer to as "He" is called SUZI :rolleyes:

(Suzi God Son actually a strange coincidence!!??)



If you want to use citations, actually use ones that you have read and actually support your argument that others 'write tripe'![/QUOTE


As you say "actually read?!"

It helps to get the (reporters) Sex right especially when you are trying to concieve..................... I guess !

Paul_Varjak

... and ghobbledegook!

Anyway, Ted, you may be a 'phony' - but at least you are a 'real phony' - for believing all the phony rubbish you believe in!

Paul_Varjak

Ted_Hutchinson wrote:

Try using the User CP Buddy / Ignore Lists facility it saves a lot of irritation.

Irritaion-saving = time-saving = money-saving!

mr_rush

'I only believe stuff that has good up to date scientific research to support it. Most of the information I provide comes from Pubmed'

the majority of papers are accesible through Pubmed. Doesn't mean they are any good. You do not have access to most top quality journals as they are password protected - the New England Journal of Medicine, BMJ, Nature, Science...

'I really don't know why you bother to read my posts' for amusement purposes only

Paul_Varjak

mr_rush wrote:

'I only believe stuff that has good up to date scientific research to support it. Most of the information I provide comes from Pubmed'

the majority of papers are accesible through Pubmed. Doesn't mean they are any good. You do not have access to most top quality journals as they are password protected - the New England Journal of Medicine, BMJ, Nature, Science...

'I really don't know why you bother to read my posts' for amusement purposes only

Ted, mr_rush is a doctor!