sent home from work in the night

DVardysShadow

dickydonkin wrote: »

Why do the likes of the AA and RAC prioritise lone women who have broken down in their cars - are they patronising as well or should they also assume they will have mobile phones, are adults and can look after themselves?

Actually, the AA quietly climbed down on that one, because it was based purely on gender and not on vulnerability. It was not sustainable under Sex Discrimination requirements.

dickydonkin

SarEl wrote: »

LazyDaisy is correct - the precendent is about the employer breaking the law within work as a result of excessive and unlawful hours which then directl;y contributed to the resulting accident as a result of exhaustion. I have to agree with other posters here (many of whom, like me, are women - and presumably like me, women who actually do go out after dark!) - the OP had a variety of choices available if she did not want to walk home on her own, including waiting for someone to come for her or phoning a taxi. It seems to me that this is something of a red herring - what does it matter? It has no relevance whatsoever to the reason that the OP ended up going home at that time, and I doubt that the employer will be as easily diverted from whatever disciplinary measures they may take as a result of her actions in arguing with her manager and refusing reasonable management instructions by this matter as it would appear that the thread has. That is the real issue and the one that the OP should be worried about.

The cause of the death is not or never was in dispute.

The question was raised if an employer could potentially neglect his duty of care to an employee if that employee was not in working hours or not even on the premises.

The case I highlighted was proven to be a breach of criminal law in respect of two counts of the HASWA - again cannot be disputed.

Now - would such a conviction enhance the chances of the dead mans family of pursuing a civil claim for negligence against the employer?

It would seem there was a failed duty of care given to the dead man by virtue of the HASWA breaches, although I appreciate the law is as never straight forward as that.

hook

I did call my partner to collect me but he had a drink and therefore couldn't drive it took a while to contact him as he was sleeping. The deputy manager is know to be a total idiot and as he had already screamed at me in public I was gonna make sure a member of staff was with me as I assumed it would have. Even dealt with in private but he allowed other staff to hear it and also contractors. I could not wait outside the building as it is in not such a good area and a few months ago on late shift a man tthreatened to rape me and when I managed to get into a office he tried to force his way in he has not been caught as the pcso who dealt with it let him go that was investigated and he got a warning. The man has been seen outside there a few times . This is why I could not wait outside and had to start walking until I was met.

hook

Yes I can be a gobby cow and yes he is a little hitler and and I do follow orders from whoever is my line manager at the time in 2 years I have been there none of the managers have ever had a problem with me they all know I will do my job but they also dont go throwing third weight around either

bobajob_1966

hook wrote: »

I did call my partner to collect me but he had a drink and therefore couldn't drive it took a while to contact him as he was sleeping. The deputy manager is know to be a total idiot and as he had already screamed at me in public I was gonna make sure a member of staff was with me as I assumed it would have. Even dealt with in private but he allowed other staff to hear it and also contractors. I could not wait outside the building as it is in not such a good area and a few months ago on late shift a man tthreatened to rape me and when I managed to get into a office he tried to force his way in he has not been caught as the pcso who dealt with it let him go that was investigated and he got a warning. The man has been seen outside there a few times . This is why I could not wait outside and had to start walking until I was met.

I'm beginning to see holes in your story - in order for a caution (or warning in the case of juveniles) to be given, the individual must admit to the offence. Someone that admits to a threat of/ attempted rape would not be given a caution, it is far too serious an offence.

hook

Just now had a call to say there is a formal meeting tomorrow to investigate what happened and have been told he had a duty of care and should have allowed me to wait inside until I was met. I have had a number of calls from other deputies also stating he didn't really have any reason to send me home and to counter complain about his behaviour

hook

No I meant to say the pcso was given a warning for allowing the guy to go . And if he was not up to arresting him he should have at least took his details or called for assistance the whole incident was witnessed by a few staff who had to help remove him from the building

hook

Sorry it was a note on his record and their were 2 pcso involved and the other one got one aswell

vax2002

You have to understand some people come on this forum for no other reason than to get pleasure out of hearing stories of authority abuse, they love it and they are always first to get the boot heel and grind your blooded face in the dirt, just to finish you off.
I think it is a payback for having a dead end job where they get talked down to all day.
They come here to get boot-licker !!!!!!, to back up authority, to enjoy watching victims getting beaten.
You will never convince them, instantly time after time they jump down on the side of authority, they are never wrong.

Personally I feel what happened to you was disgusting, put you in danger and you should get your side of the tale in as quickly as possible and tell it like it is.
Any body who would send a girl out to walk home on her own on a night and not even organise a taxi or some transport is not fit to be in charge of a hen house, never mind employees.
Go for it girl.

bobajob_1966

hook wrote: »

No I meant to say the pcso was given a warning for allowing the guy to go . And if he was not up to arresting him he should have at least took his details or called for assistance the whole incident was witnessed by a few staff who had to help remove him from the building

The police have a description of this man and know the severity of the allegation, plus you have seen this man again (and I assume, reported him on each occasion). If this is true, I would focus on asking the police why they are not doing more, rather than questioning why you were told to leave work at night.

Are there no taxi companies in the area?