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  • Pikeyp
    Pikeyp Posts: 494 Forumite
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    dogmaryxx wrote: »
    Why not let him download over night if it's a daytime problem?

    Leaving aside the legal/illegal question for the moment , this would be the best way to do any down-loading! Of course this would mean leaving the PC doing the down-loading being left on all night too!

    If he is using the utorrent client (most likely!) , it's easy to set-up the built-in scheduler to do exactly this!

    A google search for 'utorrent scheduler' would most likely show you the way ...
  • guy999
    guy999 Posts: 325 Forumite
    Also if he downloading so much, depending on your broadband contract he may use up all of your usage over a few days? Leaving you with very little.

    Believe the provider may also cap your speed if they believe you are downloading large vloumes of stuff that you are not supposed to be?
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  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    edited 17 October 2011 at 12:40PM
    Setting aside all legal issues;

    Video torrents use a lot of bandwidth due to large file sizes.
    The guest can't watch programmes whilst they're partially downloaded.
    Typically, your ISP will have more bandwidth available during the night because most folks in the UK go to bed then and don't surf, so typically, a torrent program will download faster overnight.

    So;

    If you need the bandwidth during the working day, get your house guest to ONLY download during the night, and ONLY watch during the day. Stop or pause the torrents every morning when you get up. Start them again when you go to bed.
    He'll get the downloads quicker as a result, and you'll have better daytime usage.

    Your house, your rules. He's not really in a position to protest.

    Or

    Get some money from him and go buy some boxsets of DVDs
  • kwikbreaks
    kwikbreaks Posts: 9,187 Forumite
    Fifer wrote: »
    It's still a breach of copyright at night.

    But it's dark then so less chance of being seen.

    I'll get me coat...
  • *Robin*
    *Robin* Posts: 3,364 Forumite
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    Thank you everyone for your replies, especially Arriva who provided instructions even I could understand! However when I suggested to my guest putting these limits on, he was horrified - apparently limiting uploads is seen as 'very bad form' by other Torrent users (and yes, it is UTorrent he is running).
    I then started talking about the legal implications you have so kindly made me aware of - and the upshot is he has switched it off, for now at least.

    My internet connection has not fallen over since, so it looks like that definitely was the problem, which is a relief.
    But this is another worry:
    guy999 wrote: »
    Also if he downloading so much, depending on your broadband contract he may use up all of your usage over a few days? Leaving you with very little.

    Believe the provider may also cap your speed if they believe you are downloading large vloumes of stuff that you are not supposed to be?

    I'm on an unlimited download deal, but don't like the thought of the speed being capped - it's already slower than I'd like (due to distance from the exchange, apparently).

    Incidentally, I thought copyright lasted 25 years? If that's true, then the early Dr Who episodes my guest is downloading - with the first doctor and the one with the long scarf - should not be affected as it was definitely longer ago that they were produced.
  • Naf
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    See my reply - torrent downloading programs upload as well as download - that is how they work.

    Also does that mean you could borrow the DVD or Blueray from the library and copy it because you have a TV licence?

    I apply logic as follows: I have paid my TV license, this gives me the right to watch programmes on TV. I am also entitled to record programmes to VCR/DVD/TIVO/FreeviewPlus/PC for viewing later.
    So legally I can hold the video in various formats for a certain time until I have chance to watch it, then I get rid (delete it, overwrite etc).
    Reasonably, there is little difference between recording myself, then disposing; and downloading someone else's recording (nobody making any profit from the process) then disposing after I have watched it: especially if I was watching a programme on one channel and by doing it missing something on another channel.
    I apply the same logic to the films I own on DVD or VHS: my copying them (either to a new disc to save damage to the original, or to get multiple files on the same disc, or just straight to a hard drive for better portability) is irrelevant, as I still own the disc/tape and could just as well take that with me to watch.
    The library is a different subject as copying it suggests intention to keep it to view for longer than the hire period, and that period is all that has been paid for.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
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  • *Robin* wrote: »
    apparently limiting uploads is seen as 'very bad form' by other Torrent users (and yes, it is UTorrent he is running).

    Incidentally, I thought copyright lasted 25 years?
    Yes it is considered bad form :p

    As for a limit - nope - some things can expire (books after 99 years of authors death I think) but I am sure the BBC has renewed it if necessary

    If he is using public torrents you might get a cease and desist letter + fine from a legal firm (the fine is pretty much unenforceable though - but that is another topic...)
  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    *Robin* wrote: »
    when I suggested to my guest putting these limits on, he was horrified - apparently limiting uploads is seen as 'very bad form' by other Torrent users

    It's also 'bad form' to abuse your host's hospitality the way that your guest is doing.......
  • steve1980
    steve1980 Posts: 2,334 Forumite
    Downloading copyrighted material via any torrent is completely illegal and if your ISP catches you then you will be disconnected.

    All I can say is that I hope you have true unlimited broadband otherwise your bill is going to be huge.
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  • Paradigm
    Paradigm Posts: 3,666 Forumite
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    edited 17 October 2011 at 4:54PM
    steve1980 wrote: »
    Downloading copyrighted material via any torrent is completely illegal and if your ISP catches you then you will be disconnected.

    While you are technically correct, lets get back to the real world ;) Do you really think that the BBC are going to concern themselves with anyone d/loading old eps of Dr Who?

    ISPs are generally not interested in what you are doing unless they receive a complaint & it's highly unlikely the BBC are in any way interested.
    Always try to be at least half the person your dog thinks you are!
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