The black sheep returns...

Knitting_Nora

Karmacat wrote: »

Yep, you are! You'll notice I laid the compliments on as thick as I could :D:D

**sidles off anyway, to brew the coffee*

Yeah...thanks for the help...it'll come back threefold....

*mine's a tea please, milk and one sugar. Ta*

ZTD

Knitting_Nora wrote: »

Pah! Of course I argue...I'm just learning the art *cue mystical music in the background* of picking my battles, young ferret.

I can't be a ferret. Otherwise I'd end up in someone's trousers, and I'm just not that lucky...

Karmacat wrote: »

Z as ferret! Excellent! After all, Lyra had a daemon who became a ferret in The Northern Lights (well, an ermine, but same diff).

Not they're not! They're stoatally different.

Karmacat wrote: »

Royalty, Z, you're royalty!

I'm royalty in another universe...

Useful... :rotfl:

elantan

Karmacat wrote: »

This is *so* true :rotfl:


Oh but thats the point El, the stuff you can get when you put the records together is fascinating, and very real. Particularly for the last 100 years or so, when I have oral histories that I've taken - for instance, the outline of the facts is that my grandad lost his dad at the age of 9, in an accident on the Mersey, he worked part time till he was 13 and then worked full time on the docks. The human part - he got the usual razz of "go and get a left handed hammer", that kind of thing. And then they found out who his dad was, and apologised to this tiny little 13 year old, saying if they'd known who he was, they'd never have razzed him.

And all the stuff about my Irish rellie in England who hated the English and went to America (lived in a Greek boarding house!) and died when his whiskey still blew up! He turned himself into a comic book Irishman, I think, through his hatred of the English - born in Dublin on St Patrick's Day? I mean, some blokes must be, but what are the odds? Stuff like that, I love it :j

Its an interest, like any other, and you make of it what you want.



I know *exactly* what my grandad would say to that local swear words are also fascinating


Miz! You're actually *producing* online courses? Sounds fascinating ...

that does sound exciting

Knitting_Nora

ZTD wrote: »

I can't be a ferret. Otherwise I'd end up in someone's trousers, and I'm just not that lucky...

Oh, now, see, I have no clean(ish) response to that!!

Not they're not! They're stoatally different.

*slaps head* urgh! Really!

I'm royalty in another universe...

Useful... :rotfl:

Better than being royalty in this one - think what you'd look like....;)

mizmir

elantan wrote: »

well something like that ... almost guilty for not finding it interesting ... i doubt very much if i would ever be almost interested lol ...

for me personally i just felt it only told half the story ( if that) ... ok so we know so and so was a butcher that married whats her name and had so many whats it calleds but we dont know much else about so and so the butcher ... what was their interests ? what made them tick etc .... its the space between the info that would interest me... i reckon diaries would be more intersting to read ...

But that is where it does get interesting. I have found two separate sets of family letters (one lot between 1845 and 1875 and the other from 1790-1815) and they are fascinating - full of details about family life, village life, really brings them to life. And an autobiography written and self published by an g-g-g-aunt in Edinburgh in the 1880s - she was a real snob but it is full of details about a certain sort of life at that time! Then there are the asylum records for my g-aunt covering 20+ years of her time in the asylum - very grim - and wills - they are fascinating - lots of detail and fun when you find reference to objects that are still in the family. Newspaper reports - one chap - also in Edinburgh - was mugged in riots when coming home on Hogmanay - and was a witness in the subsequent murder trial (another more unfortunate chap was killed). That's what is fun - these people come to life. And you can see traits being passed down through the generations!

ZTD wrote: »

So almost feeling guilty for almost being interested?

I must admit, geneology was not my thing either. Reminds me of The Hobbit when introducing the Dwarves. Gain son of Thain, son of Dwain, son of...

:rotfl::rotfl: Well that kind is rather dry. No interest really in lists of names - want to know about the people. Which is why I decided I didn't want to do it professionally - don't think I'd be interested in just finding out who was who for someone else!

boredofbeingathome wrote: »

Slinks off cos i do find genealogy interesting..but i wouldn't pay that much either. My rellies would roll around in their graves if i did

OK OK but in my defence it is the accredited training so if you did want to be a professional it makes sense!! But not just for fun you are right!

mizmir

Knitting_Nora wrote: »

*sticks head around door* Ooo, hi Mizmir! :wave:

Lovely diary *subscribes*

Ya boo sucks to the other dog owner - used to have a rescue which couldn't be let off her lead, and therefore really didn't like other dogs throwing themselves at her....can't count the number of times I had to tell other dog owners to *ahem* "remove themselves and their dogs" from our personal space!


Nora.x

Hi Nora - and welcome! Glad I am not the only one that thinks it not unreasonable to be able to occupy a small piece of ground in a very large space without everyone else's dog having to be there too!

mizmir

Karmacat wrote: »

This is *so* true :rotfl:


Oh but thats the point El, the stuff you can get when you put the records together is fascinating, and very real. Particularly for the last 100 years or so, when I have oral histories that I've taken - for instance, the outline of the facts is that my grandad lost his dad at the age of 9, in an accident on the Mersey, he worked part time till he was 13 and then worked full time on the docks. The human part - he got the usual razz of "go and get a left handed hammer", that kind of thing. And then they found out who his dad was, and apologised to this tiny little 13 year old, saying if they'd known who he was, they'd never have razzed him.

And all the stuff about my Irish rellie in England who hated the English and went to America (lived in a Greek boarding house!) and died when his whiskey still blew up! He turned himself into a comic book Irishman, I think, through his hatred of the English - born in Dublin on St Patrick's Day? I mean, some blokes must be, but what are the odds? Stuff like that, I love it :j

Its an interest, like any other, and you make of it what you want.

Yep - those are the gems that make it worth while!

Karmacat wrote: »

Miz! You're actually *producing* online courses? Sounds fascinating ...

Am working on it. Have been doing it in the day job for a long time so am looking at ways I can transfer it to the dog stuff and hopefully generate an income!

mizmir

ZTD wrote: »

I can't be a ferret. Otherwise I'd end up in someone's trousers, and I'm just not that lucky...



Not they're not! They're stoatally different.



I'm royalty in another universe...

Useful... :rotfl:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: And didn't something bad happen to Pan in the end... or am I getting him mixed up with Hedwig in yet another universe....?

mizmir

Well thank you all for brightening my morning - came back from shopping to a veritable party on my diary!

After all that don't feel like bringing us back to the mundanities (is that a word?) of life so I won't. Will leave that for later. Enjoy your day all.

elantan

*lobs a jaffa cake to miz* there ya go lovely enjoy that wi a wee cuppa