Kids not in school

RAS

Empty_pockets wrote: »

No, I haven't because although difficult, it's been manageable. as said above, Once I go down that road there is no going back and it is likely to cause more problems than it solves. Better the devil you know.

Anyway, this is going off topic, what I wanted to know was what responsibility the education department have and what sway I have with them. It seems from the above, legally, nothing.

I'm going to try and speak to them tomorrow anyway and see what I can find out.

Hi

With respect to parental responsibility; you really do need to act;

1. If anything happened to your children and they were taken into hospital, you cannot consent to treatment. If this were for example a car crash affecting your ex and the children, there might be no-one who had parental responsibility.

2. If your ex died, then you have no right to have the children live with you.

3. If for any reason Social Services did become concerned about the children living with their mother, your right to contact could be seriously curtailed. You would need an urgent court case to get PR.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow

OP - did you contact the Education Welfare department today?

puddy

RAS wrote: »

Hi

With respect to parental responsibility; you really do need to act;

1. If anything happened to your children and they were taken into hospital, you cannot consent to treatment. If this were for example a car crash affecting your ex and the children, there might be no-one who had parental responsibility.

2. If your ex died, then you have no right to have the children live with you.

3. If for any reason Social Services did become concerned about the children living with their mother, your right to contact could be seriously curtailed. You would need an urgent court case to get PR.

he does need to act to get PR but not for the reasons above. if there were concerns about the mother and the children needed alternative care, the father would be the first port of call for SSD seeing as he appears (from this thread) to have regular contact with them and a good relationship, PR is something that would be sorted out later if this was the case.

same if mum died.

Empty_pockets

Hi, thanks for all replies.

Sorry for delay, on nights and only just ome back in to work.

Thankfully I feel a lot more relaxed and relieved today. Kids still aren't in school and I still haven't heard from the mother but after many phone calls managed to track down 3 seperate people dealing with 3 seperate admissions for 3 seperate schools. It's made more complicated by the middle child needing special learning assistance.

As long as I know the right people in the right department are dealing with it and it is a priority for them I'm placated. What I was fustrated by, was the refusal of the mother, even now, to talk to me about it or even make me aware after 4 weeks that they were not in school.

At least now I have contact names and numbers for those I need to speak to.

re parental responsibility, some good points made, I think I'll look into it but will wait for a time that things are more positve with the mother before I make my approach.

FBaby

You do need to look into pr. If something happened, SS would come to you as a priority, but you would have to apply to get it first (most likely). The thing is, it is very straight forward. If she were to agree, you could do it together and have it officialised without going to court. If she refuses to sign, you would have to go to court, but if I recall properly, it only cost about £200ish. You don't need a solicitor present. As you are on the birth certificate, it would be given to you automatically by the judge unless she makes a case as to why you shouldn't be entitled to it (ie. no contact at all, violence, drugs etc...).

You were lucky to get the information you received because without pr, they shouldn't have. Schools will ask her to fill in a form asking if you have pr or not. If she says no (which I assume she will), you will not be entitled to get any info from the school. The same applies for all medical care. Considering the fact she is very reluctant to share any info, I would definitely make getting pr a priority.

Empty_pockets

Kids starting on the 31st after half term.

Thanks to all who contributed.

Empty_pockets

Just an update.

Middle child, 10 with special needs still off school.

I'm told the reason is there is not a teaching assistant avaiable for him. The first they hired decided to refuse job for a better offer elsewhere and they have to go through recruitment process again.

I'm told he will start in january for spring term. He does have some work to do at home, maths stuff but is really struggling with it. I tried to help him on the weekend when he was with me but it's hard going.

jojo_2012_2

Empty_pockets wrote: »

Week later I saw them and asked how school was going, found out they hadn't started yet, she was still sorting it.

Week or so later I question it again, told teacher training day.

Assumed all was well but checked a few days back and now found out they have still not started school.

Their mother comes out with excuse after excuse and tells me she is working with Education welfare services but its the schools that are full and not taking kids on.

She won't give me the number of the contact she has at the council
She doesn't want me to get involved as she says she can manage.
She won't update me with progress. I've tried waiting for her to get in touch, I've tried phoning, texting & voice messages 10 times a day but she just screens the calls.
She won't give me her mothers number so I can go though a third party.

So she was telling the truth, and you didn't believe her. Why? Why harrass her leaving all those messages and trying to get her mother involved, it's no wonder she's trying to keep you at arms length. She's looking after your kids, either you're happy with it or your not. If your not then do something about it.

Empty_pockets

Thanks Eclipsed.

Eldest two are enjoying thier new schools. Just hoping my lad will get started soon, he really needs to catch up.