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  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    Mallotum_X wrote: »
    Trouble is large sections dont pay anything either

    And the already large sections are getting larger all the time

    Plus, there is a clear, non-party-political, villain of the piece (the banks)

    Uh-Oh!

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • ILW wrote: »
    UKUncut are a bunch of losers that have never produced or done anything in their lives and prefer to just complain about how hard done by they are.

    What a stupid remark. If I was you I would be blushing at the lack of intelligence you seem to have. So clearly you know every member. All losers? How in the world do you know? Yet you come out with this venom. The points raised by them are challenging.

    I am one of their losers. At 61 struck down by illness after 40 years of hard work. Yes I get some benefits and grateful for them.

    Rather than make the statement of an idiot, perhaps you might like to read a little more about what they have to say. I find your remarks very insulting. If you can not find a little more intelligence than stop clogging up the boards with inane posts.
  • ILW wrote: »
    At least it pays something, as opposed to the average UKuncut supporter.

    doctors and other professionals took part in their most recent action
  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 14,099 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    UKuncut isn't a 'group' or an 'organisation'. It's a concept, something the Authorities really can't get their heads around.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    What a stupid remark. If I was you I would be blushing at the lack of intelligence you seem to have. So clearly you know every member. All losers? How in the world do you know? Yet you come out with this venom. The points raised by them are challenging.

    I am one of their losers. At 61 struck down by illness after 40 years of hard work. Yes I get some benefits and grateful for them.

    Rather than make the statement of an idiot, perhaps you might like to read a little more about what they have to say. I find your remarks very insulting. If you can not find a little more intelligence than stop clogging up the boards with inane posts.

    Their main "policy" is to increase public spending and to finance it through higher taxes from everyone who they perceive as being better off than themselves.

    The brutal truth is that if the super rich individuals and corporations are heavily chased for extra, they will just take their money (and the jobs which this creates) to more friendly countries.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    Well it's no surprise when a bunch of Old Etonians see the world through the lens of their own background. But there was a time when the opposition would have been vicious. Why are we so docile now?
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • MacMickster
    MacMickster Posts: 3,648 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Unfortunately this organisation seems to take a very simplistic view of the benefits of taxation.

    Tax evasion and avoidance is a fact of life. Governments of all persuasions try to reduce this but will never eliminate it. The UK actually has a level of tax compliance which most other countries envy.

    Take an extra 100 billion pounds a year from the banks? If you've read the press lately you will realise that banks across Europe are in need of more capital rather than having a surplus with which to pay further taxes.

    As an economy we need to learn to live within our means. Closing the deficit requires a combination of spending cuts and additional taxes. The proportion of each is a matter for both political and economic debate, but there is no simplistic solution as UKuncut seem to believe.
    "When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    The cuts that they are so angry about, will not even get us back to the levels of public spending of a decade or so ago before Gordon Brown decided to go loopy with the countries credit card.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Unfortunately this organisation seems to take a very simplistic view of the benefits of taxation.

    Tax evasion and avoidance is a fact of life. Governments of all persuasions try to reduce this but will never eliminate it. The UK actually has a level of tax compliance which most other countries envy.

    Take an extra 100 billion pounds a year from the banks? If you've read the press lately you will realise that banks across Europe are in need of more capital rather than having a surplus with which to pay further taxes.

    As an economy we need to learn to live within our means. Closing the deficit requires a combination of spending cuts and additional taxes. The proportion of each is a matter for both political and economic debate, but there is no simplistic solution as UKuncut seem to believe.

    You have put that better than I did.
    Apologies to anyone that I offended.
  • ILW wrote: »

    The brutal truth is that if the super rich individuals and corporations are heavily chased for extra, they will just take their money (and the jobs which this creates) to more friendly countries.

    We've heard all these idle threats many a time. Why don't they just f*ck off then and let others take their place.
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