Can this really be a free car?!?

mikey72

You can always sell it on for spares, or break it yourelf then.

MichaelCR

Thehandyman wrote: »

Agreed, but if I could keep it for myself.... That would be nice!
I spent a few quid this evening, did an hpi check on it, completely clear, no finance etc, so I think it will be being removed this weekend:j

You can buy a 04 Mondeo Zetec (Mid trim) with a 2.0 TDCi engine for around £1,499 with a decent mileage, Good service history etc etc, Then you don't have to worry about the legality's of your actions.

As for taking the car without the owners consent (TWOC'ING), Is presumably against the law, As you don't actually own the vehicle, So i'd advise against it, Regardless of how long its been there, Its up to the landowner to take the issue up.

Knackered

mikey72 wrote: »

So whenever you buy a car second hand, you ask to see the receipt from when they bought it?
What would a dog eared sheet of paper with a name you can't recognise saying "sold as seen" prove.?
They could have written that 2 minutes before.
Nothing proves they own it.

This is what I'm thinking, why is there no official document? It's insane that if you get pulled over you can show the cops a scrap of written paper with "Here you go" and a couple of signatures to prove ownership. :huh:

vax2002

The Answer to who owns a vehicle is written on the registration certificate, the person named is the registered keeper, the legal and lawful owner is on the top of the certificate of the body you registered it to.
This is often well outside the knowledgeable understanding of normal people and often mimicked by the ignorant.
But have a think, break the rules on the registration certificate and who "seizes" the registered car ?
You only own the title of keeper, the actual material part is owned by who it is registered to and that is not the "keeper".
Stop paying your taxes due on the vehicle and they will soon remind you who that is when they seize and sell it.

split_second

there was a similar situation where my fiance used to live, instead of scrapping cars they used to mysteriously turn up on the car park of the block of flats, took about 9 months before the management company arranged to get rid, there were some colourful languaged notes left on the windscreen as i remember, when it eventually went it was replaced with something else in a similar state within weeks

rev_henry

vax2002 wrote: »

The Answer to who owns a vehicle is written on the registration certificate, the person named is the registered keeper, the legal and lawful owner is on the top of the certificate of the body you registered it to.
This is often well outside the knowledgeable understanding of normal people and often mimicked by the ignorant.
But have a think, break the rules on the registration certificate and who "seizes" the registered car ?
You only own the title of keeper, the actual material part is owned by who it is registered to and that is not the "keeper".
Stop paying your taxes due on the vehicle and they will soon remind you who that is when they seize and sell it.

Have you de registered you car and become a Free Man of the Land?

victorias_dad

Wasn't there a case recently where a gang of clampers were stooping to new lows by registering in their names cars they had clamped and removed and by all accounts getting away with it as the police said they were powerless to act.all the owners had log books in there names

emmell

Owning a car for 18 months, having the V5c in their name, having tax and insurance, having a written receipt and a clear Hpi report, did not stop my friends car being clamped outside her own house and removed by some blokes working for some so called debt recovery firm.
She paid (in good faith) £3500 cash for the car and now has no car and no cash and no laws to help her.
The previous owner (not the seller) had taken out a log book loan and the loan company have taken the car, and if my friend wants her car back she has to pay the loan company £1500. Don't say she should have rung the police, she did, they weren't interested, don't say she should have refused to give the car up, she did, but was told by the police that she would be arrested?
There is nothing in writing to say that you own a car, if someone previously to you owning it has taken a loan out with loan sharks against the log book, then the loan sharks can take the car legally.
LOG BOOK LOANS DON'T SHOW ON A HPI CHECK.......SO BUYER BEWARE!!!!
I'm not shouting, just making a point. This happened about six weeks ago.
ML.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

victorias_dad wrote: »

Wasn't there a case recently where a gang of clampers were stooping to new lows by registering in their names cars they had clamped and removed and by all accounts getting away with it as the police said they were powerless to act.all the owners had log books in there names

then the dvla failed these owners and a serious investigation into the dvla should ensue, because the DVLA has to write for PERMISION from the previous RK to change over the details.

mikey72

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

then the dvla failed these owners and a serious investigation into the dvla should ensue, because the DVLA has to write for PERMISION from the previous RK to change over the details.

The dvla don't write for permission, they write to see if the previous owner objects.
As many of these cars are abandoned, or the owner hasn't updated their details when they move, they don't respond. So the change goes through unchallenged,