Jobcentres send you 90 miles for job?

2sides2everystory

45 miles or 45 minutes ... round the corner - NOT! And for six quid an hour if they are 21, or much less if they are not? When they can stay at home and get insulted by the same sort of toffee-nosed people on MSE as those employers and Job Centre staff who would call £6 an hour with a 90 minute commute a living wage? Are you quite mad? I thought you were a careers adviser once? Haven't you heard? Careers planned on reason and fairplay are now a myth.

At least at home and online they can get some satisfaction of freely telling people what they think instead of being buried in some godforsaken hole of a "job" that found itself onto a JobCentre computer and can only be held down by being stuck on a stinking bus or train for 90 minutes a day and otherwise keeping their mouth shut and head down.

jazzy

It's ridiculous to expect a minimum wage person to travel 90 miles a day. If on the other hand you are receiving a high wage then that is a completely different matter.

hmc

there is no way i could do that for min wage
being a single parent i wouldnt be able to afford extra childcare on top of the fuel
madness

HappyMJ

hmc wrote: »

there is no way i could do that for min wage
being a single parent i wouldnt be able to afford extra childcare on top of the fuel
madness

Never declare to the jobcentre that you own a car as you will be expected to use it and travel 45 miles.

I could travel 45 miles from here and it would cost me about £15 on the train. However, I would refuse to even pay that as it simply isn't worth it. £6.08 times 7.5 hours is £45.60 a day less the tax and ni would leave me with £40 less the £15 rail ticket leaves me with £25 a day or £125 a week less the benefits I would lose of £67.50 (JSA) and £91 (HB) and £16.50 (CTB) per week plus the WTC's of £52 I would get makes me £2 per week better off. No thanks...... Not for being out of the house for 50 hours. I am not working for 4 pence an hour I make more on the internet.

I can't get anywhere near 45 miles on the bus in 90 minutes. The furthest I can get is 15 miles. As the ticket is only £2.25 (when purchased as a 4 weekly ticket) then I can't really refuse it.

neverdespairgirl

2sides2everystory wrote: »

45 miles or 45 minutes ... round the corner - NOT! And for six quid an hour if they are 21, or much less if they are not?

I'd have thought a 45 min each way commute was average in London. Most people travel for longer than that, I reckon.

Doom_and_Gloom

Lol, it takes over an hour on the bus to go just 6 miles from where I live, if you are lucky and can get the right bus only 50 mins! There is no chance you would be able to go 45 miles there and back on the bus and it is not cheap for the bus around here even for a 4 weekly or year ticket. You can get to London (just London such as Victoria would take at least an hour and that doesn't take getting to the station which is another 10 mins at least) on the train it is not cheap at well over £20 a day! Even a season ticket is not cheap. You would not afford it on a NMW job! Even with help/WTC it is not possible to pay rent, CT, electricity, gas (if you have it) and other basics if your transport is very high.

PasturesNew

I took a job a few years back that was 50 miles each way - and there was no public transport, so had to use my car. They said the wages would increase after 3 months by £3k (to the amount they advertised the job at), but after 3 months they said they were struggling. I couldn't afford to run my house/bills after I'd paid to keep the car on the road.... and I also knew that if the car broke down I'd not be able to fix it or get to work. It was a blessing when they laid me off after a year because of a serious downturn in their industry.

100 miles/day, 20 days/month = 2000 miles/month, 24,000 miles/year.
That's about £400/month fuel and car running costs for a small/fuel efficient car.
But it's also a new car required about every 4 years, so another £150 needed to put aside to buy a £6k car every four years.
£550/month just to get to and from work. It wasn't doable in the long-term.

Print_Screen

It is utter madness to ask people to travel for that long for NMW. Even worse if it for a part time job. The amount you would spend, and lose compared to your salary may even leave you in the ridiculous situation where you have to pay to work!

Now there are those who say "Ahh yes but you would be getting experience" That's all very nice but there is no point getting experience if you end up going bankrupt because of, unless you want experience of going bankrupt that is!:eek:

bestpud

HappyMJ wrote: »

Never declare to the jobcentre that you own a car as you will be expected to use it and travel 45 miles.

I could travel 45 miles from here and it would cost me about £15 on the train. However, I would refuse to even pay that as it simply isn't worth it. £6.08 times 7.5 hours is £45.60 a day less the tax and ni would leave me with £40 less the £15 rail ticket leaves me with £25 a day or £125 a week less the benefits I would lose of £67.50 (JSA) and £91 (HB) and £16.50 (CTB) per week plus the WTC's of £52 I would get makes me £2 per week better off. No thanks...... Not for being out of the house for 50 hours. I am not working for 4 pence an hour I make more on the internet.

I can't get anywhere near 45 miles on the bus in 90 minutes. The furthest I can get is 15 miles. As the ticket is only £2.25 (when
purchased as a 4 weekly ticket) then I can't really refuse it.

Wouldn't you receive some Housing or Council Tax Benefit if you were earning NMW?

paddedjohn

bestpud wrote: »

Wouldn't you receive some Housing or Council Tax Benefit if you were earning NMW?

Probably depends if they are single or not, NMW pays about £240 for a 40 hr week before tax.