MSE News: Unemployment reaches 17-year high

NoNoDrama

Why is youth unemployment so high? Is it because many of them are unemployable? Like the type who were in involved in the riots?

Willow92

NoNoDrama wrote: »

Why is youth unemployment so high? Is it because many of them are unemployable? Like the type who were in involved in the riots?

Are you saying that all unemployed young people were involved in the riots? I'm unemployed but that doesn't mean I was involved in the riots.

I'm sure it's easier to employ an older, experienced person than a young, unexperienced person. Would save money on training etc. It's difficult when employers won't give you a chance because you're not experienced enough. You can't get experience when you're not given an opportunity to work.

Print_Screen

Willow92 wrote: »

I'm sure it's easier to employ an older, experienced person than a young, inexperienced person. Would save money on training etc. It's difficult when employers won't give you a chance because you're not experienced enough. You can't get experience when you're not given an opportunity to work.

Exactly, it is a circle that has always existed, no experience no job, no job no experience. Before this circle could be somewhat broken by apprenticeship schemes but alas these have now all but disappeared.

So what's the fall back plan, lie on your CV and hope you can pull it off?:idea:

The_One_Who

NoNoDrama wrote: »

Why is youth unemployment so high? Is it because many of them are unemployable? Like the type who were in involved in the riots?

Because it can be difficult for some to start working if they have no experience. In my place of work there are more people over the age of retirement (by quite a way in some cases) than there are under twenty-five. With so many experienced people on the jobs market, why bother plumping for and training up a younger person?

Also note that the riots were not solely the work of the 'youth'.

Print_Screen wrote: »

Exactly, it is a circle that has always existed, no experience no job, no job no experience. Before this circle could be somewhat broken by apprenticeship schemes but alas these have now all but disappeared.

So what's the fall back plan, lie on your CV and hope you can pull it off?:idea:

There are ways to get experience, volunteering is one. If nothing else, it gets the unemployed out of the house and doing something for a few hours a week.

plumber2009

The problem with the current situation is directly down to employers because shareholders always come first at all costs. How can you be expected to get work when your competing with 1200 people for a single position. When I applied for a job at a mobile phone shop there were 1500 applicants.

Small businesses are the way foreward but also manufacturing jobs are drastically needed and employers need to "STOP" being so fussy, Since when do you need a sales degree to work in a retail outlet for example. I am currently a fully qualified tradesman but the work has dried up and the competition for work has increased but its impossible to get any other work because of the constant excuse that im not qualified for the job role in question and should stick to my current job skill.

Finance is also a serious problem for anyone wanting to start a business and there are also no options for re-training where demand requires it because no one is willing to help with funding be it employers or goverment.

I have come to the conclusion that the global economy is screwed and that the current conditions are only the tip of the iceberg as banks wont lend, employers are not employing people and goverments are broke and intrest rates are as low as they can go. Just like when the Roman Empire fell, Capitalism is falling also.

saintjammyswine

plumber2009 wrote: »

Finance is also a serious problem for anyone wanting to start a business and there are also no options for re-training where demand requires it because no one is willing to help with funding be it employers or goverment.

There are currently trials happening for funding units of qualifications, mainly aimed at employed people wanting to 'upskill'. This means they dont require the commitment of for example a year to get a full qual but a short unit can be funded. Previous trials have been very successful in increasing the number of people taking these short unitised courses.

Hammyman

dickydonkin wrote: »

Despite the recession back in the eighties - we still had a manufacturing base, steelworks, shipyards and coalfields - the majority of which are now gone.

And guess when they went? The early 80's...

Hammyman

NoNoDrama wrote: »

Why is youth unemployment so high? Is it because many of them are unemployable? Like the type who were in involved in the riots?

No, it is because of the same reason it always has been.

Willow92

Well today I found out I'll be starting Work Experience next week so hopefully that will give me the experience I need to find a proper job.

dickydonkin

Hammyman wrote: »

And guess when they went? The early 80's...

I agree that a lot of pits did indeed close before 1985, however, since 1985 to date, around 128 pits have closed - mainly due to Thatchers folly.

She did not help selling off our nationalised industries either!

And yes, many factories did take a hit in the early eighties - but at least many got through the crisis and the majority of the factories remained back then.

Now we have very profitable companies closing their UK factories and moving their production to Eastern Europe and China.

Will they ever return? Of course not.