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Aldi parking Eye 11 mins over

I have now spent more time reading this forum and feel sure I should do nothing. I did send an appeal in for my ticket, I think I did nt read far enough - I used a template for an appeal on the forum.

Have now of course had an unsuccessful appeal letter from this lovely company who sent me their 'Kind regards' !?!? I did not meet their criteria! 11 mins over due to being in the Aldi Q with a none working till

Please reassure me as I can t afford to get a judgement against me (I am not working at present but do work in financial services) and the letters as everyone knows seem to say court action will be taken.

The letters are quite threatening, well I m not used to receiving this type of letter. As I stated in the letter I am on JSA so really can t afford to pay them
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  • vax2002
    vax2002 Posts: 7,187 Forumite
    You have not been given a parking ticket or a fine:
    From a legal prospective what you have been given is an "invitation to pay a private invoice".
    You are legally within your rights to reject the invitation and keep your money:
    What will happen is they will buy your private data from DVLA and send a series of menacing letters threatening to take you to court and then more letters from fake debt collectors and fake solicitors again all threatening to take you to court.
    They will not take you to court as legally they have no power to fine you or charge you a penalty.
    In short it is a scam of impersonation of officialdom and empty threats.
    HOW TO DEAL:
    IGNORE everything, ignore all letters, ignore all fake solicitors letters and ignore all fake debt collectors.
    They will get fed up and move on to another victim.
    IGNORE Means exactly that IGNORE, you do not appeal, there is no appeal it is part of the scam, you do not bite back, do not write or do anything to correspond and they will go away, if they call your telephone, do not confirm any information place the handset down and leave it of the hook for ten minutes .
    BE WARNED evidence on these and other forums clearly describes how people who do pay these hoping they go away receive further demands for more money, often several hundreds of pounds.

    PS Dont waste your time begging at Aldi, like ASDA they are in on the scam .
    In future, shop somewhere that does not try to scam its customers out of money.
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  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    For a judgement to be made against you, the case would have to go to court (very unlikely) you lose (very, very unlikely) and THEN you refuse to pay whatever the judge orders within 28 days. This is such a remote possibility it's not worth worrying about.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • ponymad_3
    ponymad_3 Posts: 583 Forumite
    I will stay brave then and ignore - Thanks for the reassurance
  • Kite2010
    Kite2010 Posts: 4,308 Forumite
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    Free car-park?
    Landowner has suffered nil damages

    Car-park which costs say £1 for an hour?
    Landowner has suffered ~ 18p in damages

    You don't owe Parking Spy anything, so ignore the PPC and ignore Aldi (although check to see what the planning permissions say, if the planning permission says 2 hours free parking and Aldi are only giving say 1 hour's free parking, they are breaching planning rules and can get a rather lovely fine from the council)
  • ponymad_3
    ponymad_3 Posts: 583 Forumite
    Kite2010 wrote: »
    Free car-park?
    Landowner has suffered nil damages

    Car-park which costs say £1 for an hour?
    Landowner has suffered ~ 18p in damages

    You don't owe Parking Spy anything, so ignore the PPC and ignore Aldi (although check to see what the planning permissions say, if the planning permission says 2 hours free parking and Aldi are only giving say 1 hour's free parking, they are breaching planning rules and can get a rather lovely fine from the council)


    How do I check the planning permissions - I will just to see if they are in order but i don t know how I do this
  • oldone_2
    oldone_2 Posts: 974 Forumite
    Write to Aldi head office, copied to your store, that due to a non-working till you overstayed in the car park by 11 minutes and were 'fined'.

    State that unless this charge is cancelled within 7 days, you will make sure that you and friends and relatives will never shop at Aldi again.

    If everyone did this, stores would think twice about employing PPC's.
  • worried_jim
    worried_jim Posts: 11,631 Forumite
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    oldone wrote: »
    Write to Aldi head office, copied to your store, that due to a non-working till you overstayed in the car park by 11 minutes and were 'fined'.

    State that unless this charge is cancelled within 7 days, you will make sure that you and friends and relatives will never shop at Aldi again.

    If everyone did this, stores would think twice about employing PPC's.

    Save your self a stamp and don't do anything. Certainly don't pay any parking invoice either. Just ignore everything from these clowns. Continue to shop where you please and don't worry about these chancers.
  • MichaelCR
    MichaelCR Posts: 354 Forumite
    oldone wrote: »
    Write to Aldi head office, copied to your store, that due to a non-working till you overstayed in the car park by 11 minutes and were 'fined'.

    State that unless this charge is cancelled within 7 days, you will make sure that you and friends and relatives will never shop at Aldi again.

    If everyone did this, stores would think twice about employing PPC's.

    Why admit liability ? For a judgement to be made against you they'd have to sue the vehicle driver and not the vehicle owner, 99% of the time they can't prove the vehicle driver hence why no action is taken, The only idiots who end up in court with a judgement are those who admit liability, Then have a weak defense.

    Private Parking Companies work by using 'threats' to intimidate people into paying extortionate amounts of money, I honestly think they should not allowed to do so, As they are abusing both there 'Rights' and the Legal system into making up threats.

    I can well imagine for someone who doesn't have an insight into UK Law that these kind of letters would be quite threatening, Especially with the whole 'Court Action' 'Bailiffs' 'Legal Action' being mentioned.

    Ignore any further correspondence from these cowboys, Expect Fake Solicitors and Debt Collection Companies to send you letters, Ignore, Ignore, Ignore.
    ' You only live once ! Don't live to regret the past, But to enjoy the future '

    Michael.
  • oldone_2
    oldone_2 Posts: 974 Forumite
    Oh dear - the last two posters have completely missed my point.
    Of course you should not pay these invoices
    Of course you should not communicate with the PPC

    BUT

    By writing to the stores who employ these companies threatening to take your custom else where you are starting a train of events that may end in the PPC being sacked.

    If no one employed PPC's, they would quickly go out of business.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 148,091 Forumite
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    edited 8 October 2011 at 1:52PM
    Yes Oldone, I see your point with complaining at the Store. And I guess the OP has already said who was driving in this case.

    But as a rule of thumb, any letters should never say who was driving - so the OP could say summat like:

    Official Complaint - Store Manager (and copy to the Head Office)

    'I am the registered keeper of a car which was given a fake PCN - I object strongly to this sort of harassment and will report your Store and the Parking Company to the authorities and may take action for the criminal offence of harassment if and when their 'debt collector threatograms' (Google it) arrive.

    The driver was delayed due to a non-working till and yet you allow this scam protection racket to take place in your car park against your own customers. Shame on you. Do not bother to try to tell me to 'appeal' to the Parking Company - I was deluded enough to try that but of course I have now found out from moneysavingexpert.com forums that everyone gets a template refusal letter. Do you realise this is what is happening to your customers every time a Private Parking Company 'fake PCN scam' is allowed to take place in your name, in your car park? Are you unaware that no company can fine people and it's all a con, including written threats which are sent to the keeper even if he/she was not driving?'
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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