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Have you ever noticed...

... how many people think the right thing for the country to do just happens to be the thing that works out best for them?

Isn't that a bit odd?

I mean, higher interest rates and lower taxes would make me better off, but I really can't persuade myself they'd be a good idea.
"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
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  • Some people look at the bigger picture!
    Dont wait for your boat to come in 'Swim out and meet the bloody thing' ;)
  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
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    pqrdef wrote: »
    Isn't that a bit odd?

    Isn't it a bit odd that you expect something different?
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    Some people look at the bigger picture!

    The beauty of looking at the bigger picture is that it is still in the process of being painted, and it is within the power of us all to influence the final outcome

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    JonnyBravo wrote: »
    Isn't it a bit odd that you expect something different?
    Well, if the right thing to do is whatever is good for me, I'm sure you've got an equally good case that the right thing to do is whatever is good for you. And if your interests are in conflict with mine, we can't both be right.

    But "expect", well, to be honest, no.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • FATBALLZ
    FATBALLZ Posts: 5,146 Forumite
    It isn't just economic policy, after having used these forums for some time I've come to the conclusion that 99% of people are completely unable to understand or agree with a point of view that doesn't personally benefit them.
  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
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    pqrdef wrote: »
    Well, if the right thing to do is whatever is good for me, I'm sure you've got an equally good case that the right thing to do is whatever is good for you. And if your interests are in conflict with mine, we can't both be right.

    But "expect", well, to be honest, no.

    The "right" thing to do?
    Well there's a conundrum. Right for who?

    Do you believe there is an "ultimately right" choice for any of these decisions about the economy? One which is indisputedly best?

    I'm pretty sure you're not that naive?

    It's quite natural for people to be able to see things clearest of all from their point of view. Such that even those who are genuinely trying to be impartial can't be truly impartial. Then you add on top the large proportion who of course want whatever is best for them.

    So where do I sit?
    Well by and large I want what's best for me but have occasionally backed things which aren't in my interests. eg child benefit ending for higher rate tax payers.
    But to take an extreme would I want a tax measure which would rescue the country and destitute me/significantly impoverish me?

    Not on your nelly.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    JonnyBravo wrote: »
    The "right" thing to do?
    Well there's a conundrum. Right for who?

    Do you believe there is an "ultimately right" choice for any of these decisions about the economy? One which is indisputedly best?
    Well, if I come to a crossroads, I have to decide which way to go. I'm aware that my choice might turn out with hindsight to be a bad idea, but I can't help that. And if 3 people in the car all have different ideas, that doesn't avoid the decision either.

    Some method of choice will have to be established. Whatever it chooses, we'll call that right. It might involve, for instance, people feeling that somebody else's needs might take precedence over their own. Or it might just be who shouts loudest. Or whoever is behind the wheel. Or it might just come down to a fight.

    But it'll probably start with everybody presenting what they claim are rational objective arguments that have nothing to do with their self-interest. In doing so, they're presupposing that there is a right answer.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
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    pqrdef wrote: »
    ... how many people think the right thing for the country to do just happens to be the thing that works out best for them?

    Isn't that a bit odd?

    Not really, I like having a job and I would like to keep it. I would like all you to keep your jobs also.
    I want an economy that is stable for all of us. Why would that be odd?
  • nearlynew
    nearlynew Posts: 3,800 Forumite
    Well I own 2 houses outright, yet I believe house prices are too high and want them to fall.
    "The problem with quotes on the internet is that you never know whether they are genuine or not" -
    Albert Einstein
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    Really2 wrote: »
    Not really, I like having a job and I would like to keep it. I would like all you to keep your jobs also.
    But what if deficit reduction is the only way to avoid catastrophe and can't be achieved without cutting jobs?
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
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