Tube Drivers get £50k Deal.

ess0two

MFSaver wrote: »

I hope that someone can shed some light on what Tube drivers do, because I cannot understand how being a Tube driver can get you 50k and also getting a guaranteed pay rise in these times.

I am not being sarcastic. I just want to know what being a Tube driver entails.

Take care of passengers travelling from A to B???as for driverless trais would anyone travel in a pilotless plane?

ILW

ess0two wrote: »

Take care of passengers travelling from A to B???as for driverless trais would anyone travel in a pilotless plane?

DLR seems OK without drivers.

You could put a £20kpa bod on each tube train who would probabnly be more useful than a driver.

As far as I can tell it is only a matter of when to stop and start and a computer could most likeley do it better and safer.

I would have no objections to travelling in a driverless tube.

movilogo

Take care of passengers travelling from A to B???as for driverless trais would anyone travel in a pilotless plane?

Most modern commercial aircrafts nowadays run on autopilot mode - which can safely take off, navigate and land an aircraft.

But then, driving a train is much easier than flying an aircraft. Driverless trains are already there in DLR without any drama.

Govt. should seriously get rid of tube drivers and introduce driverless trains in entire London underground.

kabayiri

MFSaver wrote: »

I hope that someone can shed some light on what Tube drivers do, because I cannot understand how being a Tube driver can get you 50k and also getting a guaranteed pay rise in these times.

I am not being sarcastic. I just want to know what being a Tube driver entails.

There's probably a degree you can do at London Underground University or some such.

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ess0two

movilogo wrote: »

Most modern commercial aircrafts nowadays run on autopilot mode - which can safely take off, navigate and land an aircraft.

But then, driving a train is much easier than flying an aircraft. Driverless trains are already there in DLR without any drama.

Govt. should seriously get rid of tube drivers and introduce driverless trains in entire London underground.

When a plane is airborne fair enough,the human intervention is most probably there as a safety feature,fire,engine failure etc etc.

Could the same be said for the underground?

MFSaver

ess0two wrote: »

Take care of passengers travelling from A to B???as for driverless trais would anyone travel in a pilotless plane?

My next question is "What they actually do to take care of passengers from A to B that is worth 50k per driver?". I am sure that Tube drivers have skills that make them suitable for the job, but are those skills worth a 50k annual salary?

People might not even care what a Tube driver makes, if it was not for the fact that they threaten to strike on a regular basis.

ILW

ess0two wrote: »

When a plane is airborne fair enough,the human intervention is most probably there as a safety feature,fire,engine failure etc etc.

Could the same be said for the underground?

A tube driver is not going to put out a major fire, rebuild the engine.

I cannot see why a £50k driver is required.

ILW

MFSaver wrote: »

My next question is "What they actually do to take care of passengers from A to B that is worth 50k per driver?". I am sure that Tube drivers have skills that make them suitable for the job, but are those skills worth a 50k annual salary?

People might not even care what a Tube driver makes, if it was not for the fact that they threaten to strike on a regular basis.

Apparently it takes around 3 months training.

chewmylegoff

ninky wrote: »

Maybe you should join a union then you would have more wage bargaining power. Corporations / capital know the power of collectivisation. Labour needs to challenge that power by forming equally influential leviathans. Equilibrium is needed for the financial system to be sustained.

Or you can just moan.

this is not really anything to do with the usefulness of trade unionism per se, more to do with a certain group having an unreasonable amount of leverage (as a result of their flagrant, prolonged and consistent abuse of the right to strike and the failure of the govt to address said abuse). a better solution would be for tube drivers right to strike to be removed on the basis that they are performing an essential service.

kabayiri

How does the income of a tube driver compare to a driver of a train in the other European cities?

I can't imagine the role be that different between them all ?