dismissal i feel is just around the corner, when can i jump?

Jarndyce

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

Well, a "bonus" is exactly what it says S: can you point out where he admitted theft Jarndyce? I am not saying you are wrong, i just can't see where it is. His exact words were "a bonus just a couple of tenners" not "I stole a couple of tenners"

Are you a wind up merchant or just extremely stupid?

bluenoseam

I think that with the acknowledgement of the cable issue that's pretty much enough to get you gross misconduct, while i understand the argument of "well it wasn't just me" ultimately it's a pointless argument which i'm guessing you already know - that's not meant to sound preachy by the way, but ultimately that in itself was wrong and shouldn't have been done.

Ultimately it can still be mentioned that you wee under disciplinary when you left, you may be extremely fortunate, but even if you are i would sharpen up and start doing things by the book, i know it's a pain in the rear, but ultimately much safer & more agreeable than taking a shortcut for efficiencies sake and as you've seen that's not really all that good in the end for anyone.

BrettMorganxD

Jarndyce wrote: »

Are you a wind up merchant or just extremely stupid?

Neither, but in the case probably the latter.

I didn't read it properly he stole the cable and stole it, I thought he was saying he employer gave him £10 bonus's

SarEl

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

Now I see it sue. Some redundent cable that was no longer needed, instead of giving it back to the employer he sold it to make himself a profit?

Oh for goodness sake. He has been ignoring safety rules and stealing stuff, and he has, by his own admission here, been doing these things for ten years.

And cable doesn't get made redundant. Posts are. Although in this case, not. Treating your employers possessions as "redundant" and selling them is called theft in anyone's book. The bottom line here is that it wouldn't matter if the employer got the entire dismissal process wrong - winning a tribunal would result in a Polkey deduction equal to the award. And might just get costs awarded too. So the employer has not the slightest bit of incentive to encourage him to resign - the OP's chances of a tribunal are about the same as mine are of landing on Jupiter any time soon! Frankly, if they are willing to allow him to resign then all they are doing is saving themselves the trouble of sacking him - if he even gets a reference (which they do not have to give) then he would be entirely fortunate. If he tried demanding a pay off he is very likely to be shown the door and no reference either.

BrettMorganxD

SarEl wrote: »

Oh for goodness sake. He has been ignoring safety rules and stealing stuff, and he has, by his own admission here, been doing these things for ten years.

And cable doesn't get made redundant. Posts are. Although in this case, not. Treating your employers possessions as "redundant" and selling them is called theft in anyone's book. The bottom line here is that it wouldn't matter if the employer got the entire dismissal process wrong - winning a tribunal would result in a Polkey deduction equal to the award. And might just get costs awarded too. So the employer has not the slightest bit of incentive to encourage him to resign - the OP's chances of a tribunal are about the same as mine are of landing on Jupiter any time soon! Frankly, if they are willing to allow him to resign then all they are doing is saving themselves the trouble of sacking him - if he even gets a reference (which they do not have to give) then he would be entirely fortunate. If he tried demanding a pay off he is very likely to be shown the door and no reference either.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. In that case, dismissal is fair in this circumstance.

Jarndyce

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

Thanks for the detailed explanation. In that case, dismissal is fair in this circumstance.

So glad we have convinced you oh great one.

Anyone else getting PMs from this joker?

BrettMorganxD

Jarndyce wrote: »

So glad we have convinced you oh great one.

Anyone else getting PMs from this joker?

Well I didn't know what the OP was saying, I thought he was saying his boss gave him a bonus of a couple of tens.

SarEl

Jarndyce wrote: »

Anyone else getting PMs from this joker?

Ah - so it isn't just me? Three - after the one that I told him I don't answer unsolicited PM's. One of which was to ask me what unsolicited means!

Uncertain

SarEl wrote: »

One of which was to ask me what unsolicited means!

Oh dear - that just about sums up the standard of education these days!

saintjammyswine

Its Edukashun, at least get your own spelling right.:eek: