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The Benefits System
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There are tons of jobs & lots of other ways to make money to boot. It does require people to actually get off their ar4e & make an effort though.
As I said, if the choice was work or starve no-one in the UK would starve.
loads of other ways
list them off then
tons of jobs? would that be casual and part time jobs? the ones with 00's of applicants for 1 job
the fact is there isn't 1 job for every unemployed person.so then what?
given the recent change in legislation they can bet they wont be working over 12 weeks at a time0 -
so what would you propose?
there are not enough jobs for every genuinely unemployed person(thats those fit for work)
Stop all benefits now for everybody in their 30s who is fit to work but has never actually done one single days work in their whole lives.
Next weeks giro bill would go down by a fair old bit i reckon.0 -
Who's going to pay them?Let everyone else work or starve.
Nobody would starve, but a lot of people would have to resort to the third option, stealing.
I suppose we could let people starve in prison."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
Will the people who want everybody to work make some slight attempt to get their heads round the fact that there are a lot of people that no employer would want to employ?
In fact there are a lot of people that no employer would want on the premises, even if they got their "services" for nothing."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
Stop all benefits now for everybody in their 30s who is fit to work but has never actually done one single days work in their whole lives.
Next weeks giro bill would go down by a fair old bit i reckon.
well thats a different thing is it not
I have no time for 'dole lifers' as i refer to them
however the majority of those on the dole would be happy to not be0 -
Who's going to pay them?
Nobody would starve, but a lot of people would have to resort to the third option, stealing.
I suppose we could let people starve in prison.
Good point, its a bit much when you have got murders, rapists, child abusers eating a better meal than somebody who grafts all day and earns next to nothing so ends up on chips and egg again if they are lucky.0 -
loads of other ways
list them off then
tons of jobs? would that be casual and part time jobs? the ones with 00's of applicants for 1 job
the fact is there isn't 1 job for every unemployed person.so then what?
given the recent change in legislation they can bet they wont be working over 12 weeks at a time
- Get one of the hundreds of thousands of available jobs
- Start your own business. Nothing whatsoever stopping anyone starting a business & living off it. You can make a viable living doing gardening for people if you actually WANT to work, you don't even need skills. That's just one example, there are endless others. I know people who make decent money dog-walking. Enough to live off. Countless COUNTLESS opportunities in the UK.
- Lots of ways to make money on the Internet. One of my brothers makes lots buying & selling on ebay. All it required was for him to make the effort to research certain items & identify which ones could be bought & sold profitably.
I could walk out my house now with a bucket & sponge offering to clean people's cars & make money. And I'd do that a million times over before I'd put my hand out for benefits.
But like I'd say, all the above requires people to actually make some effort. Unfortunately there are plenty of leeches who prefer to live off the industry of others & plenty of other people prepared to leap to their defence in spite of all reason.0 -
I think its clear something has to be done ,
when I go shopping I see some single mums well known in my area,
in the nail bar having there nails done and they are always smoking.
When I pop into my local newsagents in the morning they have their many kids with them, telling them to choose anything they want for lunch , so the kids choose a chocolate bar , crisps, bottle of coke @ £3 a head. And then the mother buys more ciggys, and some lottery scratch cards!!!
AND theres me trying to find some bargains to feed my family, and we are a working family. Its a flippin joke.
obviously we dont want people to suffer but luxurys should be earnt
surely ? If I was in the same situation I would hope to have my basic needs provided , and that is all.Kindness costs nothing
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Chips and egg, luxury, I may have that for my tea, mmmmmmmmmmm.Good point, its a bit much when you have got murders, rapists, child abusers eating a better meal than somebody who grafts all day and earns next to nothing so ends up on chips and egg again if they are lucky.
would it be too ostentacious to add brown sauce ?0 -
well thats a different thing is it not
I have no time for 'dole lifers' as i refer to them
however the majority of those on the dole would be happy to not be
That gives me a bit of hope then because almost everybody i know round here is on the dole because they want to be on the dole plus having a job would greatly reduce their enjoyment of their drug of choice.
I know quite a few lads who are not working but they dont get a single penny in benefits because they have always worked and have saved a house deposit so with that in the bank the dole wont touch them.
Smackhead gets benefits.
Bricklayer with 15 years work behind him gets nothing.0
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