Which DSLR

vax2002

Bang for buck, none of the big 2 get anywhere near the sonys and sony make most of the internals on the Nikons these days.

Marty999

vax2002 wrote: »

Bang for buck, none of the big 2 get anywhere near the sonys and sony make most of the internals on the Nikons these days.

I tried a Sony DSLR in my local camera shop recently and was surprised how noisy it was when focussing. I think it could be that having the motors inside the Canon lenses makes them almost silent to use.

andygb

Marty999 wrote: »

I tried a Sony DSLR in my local camera shop recently and was surprised how noisy it was when focussing. I think it could be that having the motors inside the Canon lenses makes them almost silent to use.

I think it all depends which lens they are fitted with. I have a Sony kit lens (haven't used it for ages) which is quite noisy, and a Tamron 70 - 300 which is very noisy and "hunts" for focus. I also have a few lenses from the mid eighties (minolta) and they are quieter and more accurate.

Lirin

It's largely personal choice. I started using Canon, and I've been Canon ever since. I have had a few Nikon's as well- and Olympus. Fuji are beginning to pick up a little. I'd never be inclined to buy Sony- that's more to do with a plasticky pink colour cast and limitations in lenses available at the moment.
Every DSLR will have drawbacks. At the end of the day, irregardless of make, I'd prefer a decent camera with a fantastic lens over a fantastic camera with a standard lens.

electrodent

andygb wrote: »

There is absolutely no need to do this nowadays, because the quality of kit is so good, that most top manufacturers (Canon, Nikon, Sony, Pentax, Olympus) are as good as each other.
One good reason for NOT buying a Canon, might be the fact that image stabilisation is done in the lens rather than the body, and consequently the lenses are very expensive.
You could choose a make such as Sony (in body stabilisation), and take advantage of a huge range of Sony, Minolta, Zeiss or other lenses at a fraction of the cost.
It should be noted that Sony make sensors which other manufacturers use - Nikon and Canon included.

I agree that most entry level dslr are comparable to each other but nikon and Canon have a much wider plethora of accessories and lens, own brand and generic. Both new and second hand. A friend regretted buying Sony - £1000 for a new wide angle lens compared to me paying £500 for a similar lens for nikon. I'd repeat, its not the camera new dslr purchasers should be considering but the brand and I think Canon nd nikon, overall, are still above the rest.

andygb

Lirin wrote: »

It's largely personal choice. I started using Canon, and I've been Canon ever since. I have had a few Nikon's as well- and Olympus. Fuji are beginning to pick up a little. I'd never be inclined to buy Sony- that's more to do with a plasticky pink colour cast and limitations in lenses available at the moment.
Every DSLR will have drawbacks. At the end of the day, irregardless of make, I'd prefer a decent camera with a fantastic lens over a fantastic camera with a standard lens.

You obviously know little about photography and "white balance control" then.

andygb

electrodent wrote: »

I agree that most entry level dslr are comparable to each other but nikon and Canon have a much wider plethora of accessories and lens, own brand and generic. Both new and second hand. A friend regretted buying Sony - £1000 for a new wide angle lens compared to me paying £500 for a similar lens for nikon. I'd repeat, its not the camera new dslr purchasers should be considering but the brand and I think Canon nd nikon, overall, are still above the rest.

Please give an example, rather than vague statements.

InsideInsurance

And a rather unfair statement....

Even within a brand you'll find "similar" lenses ranging from £500 to £2,000 because one will the entry level version, one will be the standard version and the final will be the pro. Even if the headline information is identical in terms of them both being 12-24 F3.5 doesn't mean that they are identical in performance or secondary features (eg weather sealed, moving front element etc)

daggy

Thanks for all of the really helpful posts guys.... there's a few things I wouldn't mind clarifying.

Someone said that Sony's had AF motors in the lenses, but it's becoming apparent that Nikon and Sony share a lot of components, so, Do Nikon employ the same technology in their lenses?

Are there any downsides to this aside from an increased price vs say Canon for example?

I'll mainly be using the camera as a general purpose (family holidays etc) camera; however, I'd probably use it to take some pictures of the north east coast and I'm in to keeping my car nice and shiny, so some nice snaps of that too.

This may sound really silly, but I prefer cameras that have the on/off switch on a ring around the shutter button. I tried a few that didn't and I found it less natural to use. I'd also like a camera that's not too big, as if it's going to be usedx on holidays et. al, I don't want a chunky brick.

Are there any must have features? I read about anti dust something or other in an article on beginner friendly dslrs...

Thanks again for all the great help guys and gals

custardy

daggy wrote: »

Thanks for all of the really helpful posts guys.... there's a few things I wouldn't mind clarifying.

Someone said that Sony's had AF motors in the lenses, but it's becoming apparent that Nikon and Sony share a lot of components, so, Do Nikon employ the same technology in their lenses?

Are there any downsides to this aside from an increased price vs say Canon for example?

I'll mainly be using the camera as a general purpose (family holidays etc) camera; however, I'd probably use it to take some pictures of the north east coast and I'm in to keeping my car nice and shiny, so some nice snaps of that too.

This may sound really silly, but I prefer cameras that have the on/off switch on a ring around the shutter button. I tried a few that didn't and I found it less natural to use. I'd also like a camera that's not too big, as if it's going to be usedx on holidays et. al, I don't want a chunky brick.

Are there any must have features? I read about anti dust something or other in an article on beginner friendly dslrs...

Thanks again for all the great help guys and gals

are you really looking for a DSLR or would a compact suit you better
or on of the hybrid type Lumix things?