Hair "sticky" after washing

LadyMorticia

Just an update

Washed my hair this afternoon with Happy Hairdays for coloured hair (although, for some reason, it actually strips the dye off of my hair on some strands, but not others :eek:) and left my hair to dry naturally. Hey presto, hardly any stickiness at all! There's still some but not nearly as much as they was.

Violetta_2

That's good news, I'd been thinking about this & wondered if your scalp was ok? Can you get someone to have a good look at your scalp & make sure it's nothing to do with that. Glad your hair is better. Funny how important our hair is to us, a friend of mine knew I was down when my hair was a bit of a mess. (and that was a bloke)

mobypippa

I've had this same problem for the last few months (since I moved to a hard water area). I've tried tea tree shampoo with a small improvement and have finally solved the problem with tony and guy cleanse shampoo, it's specifically for product build up and was recommended by my hair dresser after I showed her my hair. Noticed a massive difference the first time I used it and after using it 3 times (with a small amount of conditioner) my hair is normal again! I'm so happy I could cry! I had seriously considered having my head shaved as I was so upset and disgusted by my hair! Thoroughly recommend trying it and a bit of perseverance! They also recommended to stop using 'supermarket shampoo' and use something natural without silicone. I've always used what I thought were good brands of shampoo, Pantene, treseme etc. So I'm going to try buying a more natural product and hope this doesn't happen again. Although if it does I'm armed with my tony and guy cleansing shampoo!

mumofronnienreggie

Hope its ok to join in here, new to this part of the forum but am a qualified hairdresser, colour tech, nvq assessor etc so hoping i might of some use along the way.
Providing there are no changes to your scalp ( in which case go see a really good hairdresser before a doctor as docs actually have very little training on it sadly), it is usually due to a product build up ( if you dont wash your shampoo or conditioner out properly after just one wash it will leave the hair with a 'tacky' feeling. Using a clarifying shampoo every couple of weeks will help. It could be that for some reason your hair is more absorbent than usual ( can be affected by health, meds , time of the month etc, ) and so it needs a bit of extra rinsing. Also look at what styling products you are using if any as they do change formula from time to time which an leave us using a product that doesnt suit us so well.
Head and shoulders .. yes this is a well known trick of the trade for helping to strip hair colour out, as will fairly liquid and baby shampoo, because they have a more alkaline formula which 'puffs up' the cuticle of the hair and allows a greater number of colour molecules to slip out. its for dire situations only and the hair should also be treated properly with conditioning treatment after. Otherwise, steer clear. There are actually very few people that have dandruff, most people have a dry scalp which should actually be treated differently, but a gain , a really good hairdresser should be able to spot this and advise accordingly.
Putting conditioner on roots - this wont make your oil production go crazy... it might make it feel a bit loaded but thats it,, oil production is usually triggered by hormones ( genetic usually but also female, health etc) and stimulation . so lots of massage et ... and actually if your hair is very dehydrated on the mid lengths to ends, this can also at times, make the extra oil be produced because its trying to compensate for the 'thirsty hair' further down. Again, really good conditioning treatments, good diet ( diet is one of the quickest ways to impact your hair), use a good quality shampoo and giving the hair a cool ( not cold) rinse at the end can help.
Hope that helps a little bit ( and hope i havent bored you all to sleep ,, i am the queen of droning on about the theory of hair :-0 )

Raksha

Costco own brand Kirkland shampoo is SLS free

Fire_Fox

mumofronnienreggie wrote: »

Otherwise, steer clear. There are actually very few people that have dandruff, most people have a dry scalp which should actually be treated differently, but a gain , a really good hairdresser should be able to spot this and advise accordingly.

Putting conditioner on roots - this wont make your oil production go crazy... it might make it feel a bit loaded but thats it,, oil production is usually triggered by hormones ( genetic usually but also female, health etc) and stimulation . so lots of massage et ... and actually if your hair is very dehydrated on the mid lengths to ends, this can also at times, make the extra oil be produced because its trying to compensate for the 'thirsty hair' further down.

Flaky scalp can be caused by a number of medical conditions which may include seborrhoeic dermatitis (greasy dandruff), xerosis (dry skin/ scalp), atopic eczema and mild psoriasis. SD is more common than xerosis. SD is not that rare, it's in up to 5% of the population, which is one in twenty. A good hairdresser can certainly comment but should not be diagnosing or treating, that is for a doctor or pharmacist because sometimes there can be underlying health conditions.

How can the skin 'know' that the lengths of the hair (dead and completely unable to communicate with the living sebaceous glands) are dehydrated or 'thirsty'? With respect I think you may be a little out of date on the latest research in dermatology/ corneobiology. Skin may produce extra sebum as a sign of systemic inflammation or topical irritation in an attempt at protecting itself - sulphate surfactants, chemical treatments, heat styling, poor diet and lifestyle choices as you say. It just so happens many of these will also damage the hair.

mumofronnienreggie

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Flaky scalp can be caused by a number of medical conditions which may include seborrhoeic dermatitis (greasy dandruff), xerosis (dry skin/ scalp), atopic eczema and mild psoriasis. SD is more common than xerosis. SD is not that rare, it's in up to 5% of the population, which is one in twenty.
Bad choice of words on my part .... perhaps rare wasnt a good description, what i meant was that there are many people out there who treat them selves for dandruff when actually that isnt what they have and an anti dandruff will provide temporary relief but not long term solution because its a different apprach....

A good hairdresser can certainly comment but should not be diagnosing or treating, that is for a doctor or pharmacist because sometimes there can be underlying health conditions.
I would agree in extreme conditions yes, however, a have a number of friends who are GP's and have all happily admitted to me without my prompting that for general cases, a well educated hairdresser can actually advise better than them - one friend of mine in particular who did her doctor stuff at college informed me that half her 'scalp' bit was optional and she chose the option not to go to those particular bit :-0 .. so yes most definitely not suggesting that a hairdresser in a substitute for a doctor and anything persistent should of course always have medical attention sought so that they can refer you onto a dermatologist / trichologist but i still have found, on the whole, in my own personal experience that aside from prescribing coal tar shampoos and steroid creams, a lot of GP's knowledge is very limited.

How can the skin 'know' that the lengths of the hair (dead and completely unable to communicate with the living sebaceous glands) are dehydrated or 'thirsty'?
you are right, in theory it shouldnt, the hair isn't alive at that point, I only speak from my own experience that very often, when dealing with hair that is overly greasy at the roots, quite often there has been a lot of dehydration on the mid lengths to ends and when clients start to take more TLC over that part, it often results in everything balancing out quite a lot .. and yes some of that can be attributed to the use of better products and just general higher levels of care .. again, a crappy choice of explanation on my part but i was trying to keep it short and not waffley..

With respect I think you may be a little out of date on the latest research in dermatology/ corneobiology.
Always happy to learn new stuff - dont think i have referred to anything that is out of date, just perhaps explained poorly.. serve me right for doing it in a hurry :-)

Skin may produce extra sebum as a sign of systemic inflammation or topical irritation in an attempt at protecting itself - sulphate surfactants, chemical treatments, heat styling, poor diet and lifestyle choices as you say. It just so happens many of these will also damage the hair.

Thankyou for pointing out that I perhaps need to be a bit more specific in future points :-)

minnie123

I use Tigi and I love it if you buy the 750ml bottles from TK Max, Ebay or Amazon they don't actually work out that much more expensive than regular high street brands. I use the Colour Goddess for brunette hair (smells like creme brulee) and the Epic Volume (used to be called superstar and smells like strawberrys) both are sulphate free and colour protective. I normally pay about £11 for a 750ml size and it lasts me about 6 months.