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Audi GEARBOX fault within 3 months of purchase

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  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    I wonder it all posters take their own advice and just get hammered every time they buy anything?

    "At 9 years old the car is approaching the end of its servicable life and things like this can be expected to happen. At 100,000 miles the car is approaching the end of its servicable life and things like this can be expected to happen. In another year the anti-corrosion warranty runs out and you may find rust appearing in the next couple of years."


    It's at the end of it's life?

    That ruins the second hand car market then if it's true, and all my cars are only fit for scrap now.
  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    6.5k car should last more than 3 mths and I expect most courts in the land would agree.

    Why? Its a 9 year old car and we don't know the mileage.

    I can show you cars where £6,500 gets you something that is so unroadworthy it needs trailering back home and the bits are in boxes in the boot. If I spent £6500 on a 1969 Shelby Mustang I'd expect to have to break out the welder and do a full restoration on it. I wouldn't even expect it to run.

    Simply saying "Its £6500 so it should last more than 3 months and most courts would agree" is a very simplistic and incorrect view. You have to take into account the going price, the age and mileage.
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    edited 25 September 2011 at 10:23PM
    The op didn't buy a 1969 car that needed trailering back though, so that's complete nonsense, but it would give the judge a good laugh if you tried that as a defence.
  • Hammyman wrote: »
    Why? Its a 9 year old car and we don't know the mileage.

    I can show you cars where £6,500 gets you something that is so unroadworthy it needs trailering back home and the bits are in boxes in the boot. If I spent £6500 on a 1969 Shelby Mustang I'd expect to have to break out the welder and do a full restoration on it. I wouldn't even expect it to run.

    Simply saying "Its £6500 so it should last more than 3 months and most courts would agree" is a very simplistic and incorrect view. You have to take into account the going price, the age and mileage.

    I dont know where to begin with this,its so ridiculous I havent got a reply.
    Went shoplifting at the Disneystore today.

    Got a huge Buzz out of it.
  • Silk
    Silk Posts: 4,836 Forumite
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    Theres a rule of thumb that applies most of the time with cars.

    The factor above all that kills the car components is mileage, there are exceptions which are down to luck most of the time.

    The more mileage the more wear and tear, it can be subdued with decent maintenance . However it's fact that the older the car becomes and the more mileage it does the more parts will need replacing.

    It's also fact that when this happens the costs of keeping them running increases mainly because major components such as engines, gearboxes, turbo's, axles etc etc all have a life expectancy.

    It's reflected in market value the higher the mileage the lower the price.

    Age is the second biggest killer and it's not just corrosion of bodywork it's corrosion of components too and swelling due to deterioration of lubricants and fabrics etc etc

    Again can be subdued with maintenance etc and there are exceptions to this rule eg...
    I know of a 1967 MGB in a private garage in Cheshire that is almost as good as it left the factory ...the reason for this is it's only got 230 miles on the clock and is kept in a climate controlled garage.

    There are of course other factors which control the life expectancy such as hard drivers, build quality, poor design etc etc

    Would I be surprised if a gearbox failed on a £6.5k 9 year old car with average mileage ?...not in the least

    Would I be surprised if a gearbox failed on a £6.5k 3 year old car with average mileage ? yes I would ;)
    It's not just about the money
  • Thank you ever so much everyone for your advice so far.

    The thing is, I have read through the entire OFT guidance for used car dealers, and this company is in breach of ALMOST EVERYTHING!!

    I signed the receipt "sold as seen" because I knew full well it meant nothing, and I did not expect to have such a major fault so quickly.

    The mileage was around 105k. I have added UNDER 2000 miles since I bought the car, so in JUST under 3 months. Sorry I cannot get the exact figures, the car is in a garage :(

    The last point he made was that he would get an exact quote from his local mechanic and let me know (why I would be interested in how much HE has to pay I do not know). He then expects me to pay for the car to be transported from Fareham to Birmingham. It is a quattro and so will need a flatbed = £300.

    I fully expect him to be awkward and deem it "due to abuse" then leave the car stuck with him until I get it moved back.... total = £600 now, no better off.

    He has only replied to ONE of my FIVE emails so far. I am not harassing the man, I simply write to ask him to confirm things he has said over the phone in writing... these emails get ignored.

    I am resigning myself to getting it all done and going to small claims court. I can tell the judge that my emails were ignored (provable) and the only offer to help left me at a great inconvenience and at a risk of losing an unreasonable amount of money, relative to simply getting the car fixed.

    The dealer knows how expensive returning the car will be, and he is using this as leverage to get his own way. I have asked him to confirm via email that he has advised me to transport the car to him at a cost of £300 (to me) and I have asked him to put in writing what he intends to do about the fault. No Reply.

    I think a major (dangerous) fault such as this within 3 months in a car described as "in excellent condition" on his website is ludicrous. 9 year old TTs tend to fetch 3-4k, the major selling point for him was that every single stamp in the service book from from either an Audi dealer, or "TheTTShop" (very reputable company in Berkshire).

    I paid OVER the odds as the car was so well looked after, or so he claimed. I don't think he lied to me, but he is not going about this in the right way at all.
  • Silk
    Silk Posts: 4,836 Forumite
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    Hi DB,
    Do you know if the trader is a well established one ...been there for some time etc etc...and is it a Ltd Co. ?

    Did you get FSH with the car ie. paperwork invoices old mot's etc or was the history just based on the service book ?

    Did they offer you warranty that you turned down or not ?

    How long is it since the email they sent ?
    It's not just about the money
  • Hi Can someone help? my partner bought a 51 plate mini cooper from a dealer on ebay which came with a three month warranty, after having the car for 4 days it broke down on the side of the motorway, The AA came and said the gearbox had a hole in the side of it. the mini is obviously not driveable, we have had it towed to a garage who have quoted approx £900 to repair, the warranty company are refusing to pay as they are saying its general wear and tear and not mechanical fault so its not covered by the warranty. where do we stand with this as i thought if a car was under warranty we would be ok if anything happened.
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,611 Forumite
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    FRAN_4914 wrote: »
    Hi Can someone help? my partner bought a 51 plate mini cooper from a dealer on ebay which came with a three month warranty, after having the car for 4 days it broke down on the side of the motorway, The AA came and said the gearbox had a hole in the side of it. the mini is obviously not driveable, we have had it towed to a garage who have quoted approx £900 to repair, the warranty company are refusing to pay as they are saying its general wear and tear and not mechanical fault so its not covered by the warranty. where do we stand with this as i thought if a car was under warranty we would be ok if anything happened.

    You might be as well to raise this as a seperate thread rather than confuse this one.
  • sorry, im new to this thanks Paul. i have now posted a new thread.
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