Any advice?

Oldernotwiser

Dontknowanymore wrote: »

Have they chnged it from 16 then?

Sorry, I don't know what I was thinking!:o

I've deleted my post.

Dontknowanymore

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Sorry, I don't know what I was thinking!:o

I've deleted my post.

That's ok, I deleted mine too lol

no-oneknowsme

Lady_gaga wrote: »

Blimey!!! You are an obnoxious rude individual.

:rotfl::rotfl: Are you ok?

I asked you the reason for your question as I thought maybe there was something I didnt know info wise that I could maybe pass on to the parents to assist them with their query which they asked me to ask on here.....

Blimey....you took it bad didnt you :rotfl:

Lady_gaga

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

Obviously you didnt read the post?

If you did then you would see where I clearly stated that she already does LOADS round the house for her parents. The point of the matter is that she does SO MUCH that her parents are beginning to feel quite bloody guilty as they have very little to do.....

The Daughter is very independent and wont accept ANY financial help from her parents - hence the reason they had come up with the idea of paying for her help AS THEY WOULD PAY ANY PERSON TO COME IN AN DO ALL THEIR HOUSEHOLD CHORES!

You seem to have a problem with an honest days pay for an honest days work??? Maybe thats why so many people are workshy today!

Seems you cannot grasp the concept of this so instead of your useless posts in which you offer zero help just feel free to go troll elesewhere!

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

I think she works 18 or 20 hours per week in her part time job.

Im not sure why you asked this question...is there a reason?

Edited to add - did you maybe think this was a ploy to get enough hours for the Daughter to get tax credits? Or to try to boost her hours to 30 in order to get the 30hr element?

I suppose I can understand that people MAY think that but to be honest having an extra 4 hours cleaning for her parents WOULDNT get her either of the above as A) She works 18/20 hours already and even with the extra 4 hours she is still quite a long way from the 30 hr element hrs needed.

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl: Are you ok?

I asked you the reason for your question as I thought maybe there was something I didnt know info wise that I could maybe pass on to the parents to assist them with their query which they asked me to ask on here.....

Blimey....you took it bad didnt you :rotfl:

no you tried to imply that I was making out she was at some sort of scam, your answer to another poster is just as rude.

All the rolleys, very mature.

zagfles

It should be OK if she's actully doing work to that value, though can't really see the point.

I know someone who employed his wife to do normal housewife stuff, ie iron his shirts, cook his meals etc. Genuine work she actually did. He paid her enough to get NI credits, but not enough to actually pay any tax or NI. Reason was the NI credits got her entitlement to maternity pay when they had their next 2 children!!

no-oneknowsme

zagfles wrote: »

It should be OK if she's actully doing work to that value, though can't really see the point.

I know someone who employed his wife to do normal housewife stuff, ie iron his shirts, cook his meals etc. Genuine work she actually did. He paid her enough to get NI credits, but not enough to actually pay any tax or NI. Reason was the NI credits got her entitlement to maternity pay when they had their next 2 children!!

Thanks Zagfles - As I said in post 1 the Daughter WOULD genuinely be doing work for her parents.

She already does all her own washing/ironing/tidying up/decorating her own room etc so its genuinely not a case of expecting her parents to pay her for doing every day stuff around the house.

The work which she will be taking on is EXTRA work that is specifically for her parents who were always considering hiring a cleaner anyhow to help around the house before their Daughters relationship broke down and she moved into their 2 bed flat with them.

The fact is that the Daughter pays her way - she insists on paying house keeping money and she buys all her own food , toiliteries etc already , however the parents want to help her out as she is now a single mum but their Daughter is hugely independent and wont accept "hand outs" from her parents....

It seemed to her parents - who asked me to ask this question- that the best solution would be to pay their Daughter the same money as they would have paid any potential cleaner they would have hired and being a family with morals they wanted to do the right thing by having their Daughter fully declaring any money which she did receive as payment by way of completing a yearly tax return.

Thanks for your input Zagfles , it was appreciated...if only other people could see that what they are trying to do is actually BE HONEST CITIZENS!

paddedjohn

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

Thanks Zagfles - As I said in post 1 the Daughter WOULD genuinely be doing work for her parents.

She already does all her own washing/ironing/tidying up/decorating her own room etc so its genuinely not a case of expecting her parents to pay her for doing every day stuff around the house.

The work which she will be taking on is EXTRA work that is specifically for her parents who were always considering hiring a cleaner anyhow to help around the house before their Daughters relationship broke down and she moved into their 2 bed flat with them.

The fact is that the Daughter pays her way - she insists on paying house keeping money and she buys all her own food , toiliteries etc already , however the parents want to help her out as she is now a single mum but their Daughter is hugely independent and wont accept "hand outs" from her parents....

It seemed to her parents - who asked me to ask this question- that the best solution would be to pay their Daughter the same money as they would have paid any potential cleaner they would have hired and being a family with morals they wanted to do the right thing by having their Daughter fully declaring any money which she did receive as payment by way of completing a yearly tax return.

Thanks for your input Zagfles , it was appreciated...if only other people could see that what they are trying to do is actually BE HONEST CITIZENS!

if she really wants to be independant then tell her to refuse her tax credits:rotfl:

zagfles

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

Thanks Zagfles - As I said in post 1 the Daughter WOULD genuinely be doing work for her parents.

She already does all her own washing/ironing/tidying up/decorating her own room etc so its genuinely not a case of expecting her parents to pay her for doing every day stuff around the house.

The work which she will be taking on is EXTRA work that is specifically for her parents who were always considering hiring a cleaner anyhow to help around the house before their Daughters relationship broke down and she moved into their 2 bed flat with them.

The fact is that the Daughter pays her way - she insists on paying house keeping money and she buys all her own food , toiliteries etc already , however the parents want to help her out as she is now a single mum but their Daughter is hugely independent and wont accept "hand outs" from her parents....

It seemed to her parents - who asked me to ask this question- that the best solution would be to pay their Daughter the same money as they would have paid any potential cleaner they would have hired and being a family with morals they wanted to do the right thing by having their Daughter fully declaring any money which she did receive as payment by way of completing a yearly tax return.

Thanks for your input Zagfles , it was appreciated...if only other people could see that what they are trying to do is actually BE HONEST CITIZENS!

I think they're trying to be too honest - this is going to be a lot of hassle and will likely cost them most of the money they want to benefit their daughter. If the daughter earns above the tax allowance already, she'll have to pay 20% tax plus her tax credits will reduce, she'll lose over half what she gets paid.

If she does it as SE then she'd need to register with HMRC as self-employed, if she does it as an employee then the parents will need to register as an employer. See the HMRC site there's a lot of help and step by step guide on what they need to do. It's a lot of paperwork.

Though when my friend did it it was a matter of principle for him too - the egibility to maternity pay being dependant on doing "paid" work with unpaid work like bringing up the next generation of taxpayers being ignored, so he decided that his wife's "unpaid" work would become paid. He did have a bit of hassle with HMRC and a lot of paperwork, but they were basically doing nothing wrong so they had to allow it. But they gained financially, rather than lost.

no-oneknowsme

paddedjohn wrote: »

if she really wants to be independant then tell her to refuse her tax credits:rotfl:

Thanks for that....sure if you have anything helpful to say you can always come back and post again.

Dontknowanymore

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

Thanks Zagfles - As I said in post 1 the Daughter WOULD genuinely be doing work for her parents.

She already does all her own washing/ironing/tidying up/decorating her own room etc so its genuinely not a case of expecting her parents to pay her for doing every day stuff around the house.

The work which she will be taking on is EXTRA work that is specifically for her parents who were always considering hiring a cleaner anyhow to help around the house before their Daughters relationship broke down and she moved into their 2 bed flat with them.

The fact is that the Daughter pays her way - she insists on paying house keeping money and she buys all her own food , toiliteries etc already , however the parents want to help her out as she is now a single mum but their Daughter is hugely independent and wont accept "hand outs" from her parents....

It seemed to her parents - who asked me to ask this question- that the best solution would be to pay their Daughter the same money as they would have paid any potential cleaner they would have hired and being a family with morals they wanted to do the right thing by having their Daughter fully declaring any money which she did receive as payment by way of completing a yearly tax return.

Thanks for your input Zagfles , it was appreciated...if only other people could see that what they are trying to do is actually BE HONEST CITIZENS!

4 hours a week cleaning a 2 bed flat when it's being cleaned and maintained anyway!

Seriously this is just a rediculous idea. If the only reason for the parents wanting to pay her is to help her out, like I said tell them to buy things to the value of the 'wages' such as gift vouchers, paying for the food shopping.