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I've just started cycling ... I have got all the high viz clothing and lights and though i'd be fine if I had them, i'm worrying now! ... I'm supposed to be peddaling 8miles a day every day on main roads pretty soon - now im starting to re-think! Some people just have no consideration for cyclists!
Without sounding sexist, if you don't look like a bloke you won't get half the hassle.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11110665Dr Walker conducted a study looking into how cyclists wearing a helmet affect the behaviour of drivers. He found that for those wearing a helmet, motorists drove much closer when overtaking.
"In absolute terms they got 8-9cm closer than they did when I wasn't wearing one," he explains, "And the proportion of vehicles getting within a really close distance went up considerably."
He also decided to don a long, flowing wig to disguise himself as a female and found that drivers left him more space when passing. He says this further proves that drivers react to cyclists' appearance.“I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”
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I've just started cycling ... I have got all the high viz clothing and lights and though i'd be fine if I had them, i'm worrying now! ... I'm supposed to be peddaling 8miles a day every day on main roads pretty soon - now im starting to re-think! Some people just have no consideration for cyclists!
defensive cycling is required for busy roads0 -
Strider590 wrote: »You'd think so, but maybe she had the radio on?
Percentage wise how many people drive around with the radio on to help them ignore any strange expensive sounding noises coming from their vehicle? 50%? 60%? 70%?
How many people drive about with flat tyre's?
How many people have faulty headlight/indicator/brake lights?
How many (and this annoys me) drive around at night or in fog, with NO lights on?
Before you answer that, bare in mind it's reckoned (survey) that 60% of drivers don't know what this means:
The driving population is full of idiots.
Point takenI hate football and do wish people wouldn't keep talking about it like it's the most important thing in the world0 -
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I've just started cycling ... I have got all the high viz clothing and lights and though i'd be fine if I had them, i'm worrying now! ... I'm supposed to be peddaling 8miles a day every day on main roads pretty soon - now im starting to re-think! Some people just have no consideration for cyclists!
I think the moral of the story is to look out for yourself.
No one else is going to.
The actions of the motorists were different, but the accident was always going to happen.
It's a busy road, so everyone is more pre-occupied with getting out into a gap, not checking there's no traffic for miles. So they're going to go anyway, even if they see something moving.
There was a queue of a car, a van, and another car turing across the cyclist. And no-one can see you cleary if you can't see them.
The bent sign shows it's an accident black spot.
The view of the junction on the left was blocked by two seperate rows of parked cars, so anything coming out couldn't see up the hill.
Most traffic coming from the cyclists direction turned left in the video, so if he went missing it wouldn't be unexpected.
Even in a car I wouldn't have hammered down the hill, expecting the cars to see me and stop. I'd have had my foot on the brake with that much happening.
Otherwise, I would have been in the right, but still in an accident as well. It's not just bad for cyclists there.0 -
of course they can
however obeying the rules and taking as much preventative action doesnt mean you are safe0 -
I think the moral of the story is to look out for yourself.
No one else is going to.
The actions of the motorists were different, but the accident was always going to happen.
It's a busy road, so everyone is more pre-occupied with getting out into a gap, not checking there's no traffic for miles. So they're going to go anyway, even if they see something moving.
There was a queue of a car, a van, and another car turing across the cyclist. And no-one can see you cleary if you can't see them.
The bent sign shows it's an accident black spot.
The view of the junction on the left was blocked by two seperate rows of parked cars, so anything coming out couldn't see up the hill.
Most traffic coming from the cyclists direction turned left in the video, so if he went missing it wouldn't be unexpected.
Even in a car I wouldn't have hammered down the hill, expecting the cars to see me and stop. I'd have had my foot on the brake with that much happening.
Otherwise, I would have been in the right, but still in an accident as well. It's not just bad for cyclists there.
well going a bit slower may have allowed te cyclist to slam into the side of the golf
the cyclist was blameless here
Im not sure if you are a cyclist but the speed on that video isnt hammering it to me0 -
.............the cyclist was blameless here..............
I didn't say he wasn't.
I'd have been blameless if I'd been in a car.
And you can see the car behind the van is following over with no indication he going to stop as soon as he appears in view.
So I agree it wasn't the cyclists fault, and he certainly had the right of way, and shouldn't have had to brake at all.
It didn't make it hurt less for him though.0 -
Interesting point worth mentioning is that the current trends for cyclists and motorbikers to wear brightly coloured and patterned materials (Hi Vis jackets, most cycling lycra, biker's "power ranger" leathers etc.) may actually make things worse as this gear tends to be similar to dazzle camouflage the purpose of which is to make it difficult to judge an objects speed, distance and/or direction. Originally used on warships before they invented radar it's now used to disguise things like speed cameras.
I wonder if anyone has done any actual research into this?0 -
Interesting point worth mentioning is that the current trends for cyclists and motorbikers to wear brightly coloured and patterned materials (Hi Vis jackets, most cycling lycra, biker's "power ranger" leathers etc.) may actually make things worse as this gear tends to be similar to dazzle camouflage the purpose of which is to make it difficult to judge an objects speed, distance and/or direction. Originally used on warships before they invented radar it's now used to disguise things like speed cameras.
I wonder if anyone has done any actual research into this?
its a point ive seen raised before
theres never a definitive answer
I actually prefer not ot wear hi viz but strong colours like red/blue with that scotchlite type reflective panels
though in heavy rain my camelbaks have yellow rain covers0
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