Who's considered emmigrating because of tax?

Randvegeta

bobwilson wrote: »

Suffice it to say everything Randvegeta has said is right.

I don't know where all these HMRC loving fanatics come from. UK has to be one of the worst most insanely immoral countries for tax.

In answer to your original question, YES! I'm looking to move abroad as we speak. I was considering Andorra, and now I'm looking at Isle of Man. For my situation, I'll can push to earn over £100k for a couple of years and then it drops to £0 per year after that. I therefore need to save as much as the money I earn as possible, to help me get on the insanely expensive UK housing ladder. UK taxes assume we will be earning the same for long periods of time, so I appear to fall in one of the many UK tax 'anomolies' that they didn't consider.

It's possible to earn £200k in a year, and nothing for the rest of your life. Instead of letting you keep all of it, you have to pay £110 to the tax man. I just cannot understand what the UK does with all these crazy taxes. Why is the NHS so crap? I've NEVER had a good service from them. Why is it so impossible to find a NHS Dentist? Why are our schools so bad? I've been mugged several times in London, and chased by an armed gang and the police did absolutely nothing. They didn't even log it as a crime; ''Chasing you with weapons is not a crime, sir.'' Years later, I noticed a man being mugged on the side of the road, I called the police and they never arrived. They beat him until he was unconscious, and I had to drive up and drag him into my car, then drive away to safety. It was terrifying. The police are Absolute rubbish. Don't get me started on GPs or hospitals. Half my family wouldn't be alive today if it wasn't for our personal diagnosis' on google and paying for private doctors.

Other countries have less taxes and better public services. From what you say, Randgveta, HK sounds like a much more sensible option for those of us sensible enough to leave. :T

If we got decent services, the taxes would make sense. But it seems we pay for a pile of sh*t.

I'm happy to pay zero tax for zero service. I already get zero service here in the UK.

UK will be losing a lot more people in the future if they don't do something about this ridiculously high tax system with no returns; I will only be one of many.

So how about setting up a Ltd. in Isle of Man?

Certainly I agree that taxes are too high to make the public services offered worth while. I use HK as an example becuase it seems to tick all the boxed. Decent public services, low taxes, and mass rebates due to sound fiscal policy resulting in Government budget surplus!

That being said, that does not sound to me, like an accurate picture of the UK public services. I would describe UK public service as, adequate. My personal experience with the NHS and education were okay. Not great, but certainly it helped somewhat.

Although my car has been broken into, and the police seemingly did nothing, I generally do feel safe in the UK. Crime is relatively low compared to many countries. But all this comes at a huge price to tax payers, and it's not right!

How can a country, with so much apparent wealth, take so much in taxes, and provide ONLY adequate services? How is it also still in huge debt?

Watching the news, listening to public sector workers talk about striking... **** them! They have it good. THEY HAVE A JOB! What makes them think they can go on strike? Who do they think they are hurting? They are only hurting REAL TAX PAYERS by damaging the economy. It will only perpetuate the problem.

It should be treasonous to strike in the public sector. Public sector unions should be banned!

bobwilson

Randvegeta wrote: »

that does not sound to me, like an accurate picture of the UK public services. I would describe UK public service as, adequate. My personal experience with the NHS and education were okay. Not great, but certainly it helped somewhat.

Although my car has been broken into, and the police seemingly did nothing

I assure you, it is an accurate picture of my 18 years with UK public services. Everyone else I've ever known has only ever received a poor or almost adequate service. Combine this with the fact that you get better medical care in almost any other first-world nation, the recent news that the NHS is so far behind other countries in providing the latest life-saving treatments comes as no surprise. When you pay such high taxes, an almost adequate service is not enough, let alone a poor service.

But even for the most basic things, the experience of me and my family and friends consistently over the past 18 years shows me that this is not an isolated situation.

Even if there is someone in the UK getting the best UK public service for 50 years, no one person should ever receive such consistently poor service. I can assure you that if any of you had my experience of the UK, you'd be wanting to move out as well. I also can't put it down to a single bad GP or Police Department etc, since I've lived in 3 different areas.

Having experienced services in other countries, the difference is so vast it's just not funny.

HMRC has recently been threatening to tax non-residents, so I wouldn't put it past them to threaten to take away nationality as well.

bobwilson

Voyager2002 wrote: »

Yes, tax rates are ridiculous. They are far too LOW to raise sufficient revenue to support the infrastructure and services that a modern economy requires.

Some of the comments in here make me wonder if you guys work for HMRC! How do you explain that other nations have such better public services for less tax? Just how much higher would you want to push tax, Voyager2002? I don't expect to get something for nothing, and I have nothing against paying tax; I'm all for it; but if I pay, I want to see my hard work is going somewhere.

Randvegeta

bobwilson wrote: »

Some of the comments in here make me wonder if you guys work for HMRC! How do you explain that other nations have such better public services for less tax? Just how much higher would you want to push tax, Voyager2002? I don't expect to get something for nothing, and I have nothing against paying tax; I'm all for it; but if I pay, I want to see my hard work is going somewhere.

Ditto. The problem in this country is that their seems to be little value for money.