Holiday in term time not authorised, will I be fined?

janninew

ash28 wrote: »

Correct - my friend's sons are both talented divers and they miss quite a bit of school for competitions etc.

Our grandson had a week out in Year 5 (he's Year 6 now) to go to Wales on the school residential trip.

Our grandaughter is going on a 2 night (so 3 days) trip next week (Year 5) prior to the "big" trip in Year 6

They go to different schools.

Do parents who disagree with children being removed from school during term time let their own children go on these trips?

I think school trips are slightly different than a holiday. The whole class will be going so my child won't be missing out on parts of the curriculum and school trips are very beneficial to children and can help with their learning (depending where they go of course!)

I went on a residential in Year 6 and we did outdoor pursuits, map reading, swimming, team building. Of course we had fun, but we were still learning. Every evening we had to write a diary of our day and looking back at it now, it makes for very funny reading!

The school trips in my secondary that lasted longer than 1 day (Paris, Italy, The Alps etc) were always run in half term, so missing school wasn't an issue.

poet123

Very few, if any of the school trips are run in half term now, and nor does everyone go on them.

janninew

poet123 wrote: »

Very few, if any of the school trips are run in half term now, and nor does everyone go on them.

Maybe the case where you work, but the secondary I work in all trips abroad are taken either in Feb half term or at Easter. I can't imagine taking some Year 10/11 children away for a week and the trouble they would have catching up, especially as not all go on them, so different pupils would be at different stages. What school could allow these trips to run in term time? The day trips are always taken during term time, but a visit form has to be submitted and 3 educational points have to be raised before it gets approval.

vax2002

You will NOT be fined, they can not give you a fine, you will be given a penalty, a penalty is not a fine, even though the dictionary says it IS.
The CORRUPT British political judges have throw away 400 years of the right to innocence and the right to justice to allow summary justice to be served upon the people of ENGLAND,(see Metric Martyrs’ VS Lord Justice John Laws)
summary justice is the right of authority to trial and sentence you with no right to defence or opportunity to avail yourself of defence, offer any evidence or ask to observe the trial .
the only other countries in the world to use summary justice are North Korea and China.
It is illegal under international law.
But for the English, summary justice remains.
The inability of the ENGLISH people to demand the right to fair trial and the end to summary justice is an act of cowardice of treasonable order.

ash28

janninew wrote: »

I think school trips are slightly different than a holiday. The whole class will be going so my child won't be missing out on parts of the curriculum and school trips are very beneficial to children and can help with their learning (depending where they go of course!)

I went on a residential in Year 6 and we did outdoor pursuits, map reading, swimming, team building. Of course we had fun, but we were still learning. Every evening we had to write a diary of our day and looking back at it now, it makes for very funny reading!

The school trips in my secondary that lasted longer than 1 day (Paris, Italy, The Alps etc) were always run in half term, so missing school wasn't an issue.

My own children had to keep journals when we went on holiday - as does our grandson - even if it's only 2 lines some days.

Holidays - depending on the type can be just as educational as school residential trips - this year we went to California with GS, one of the things we did was stay at a gold mining camp in a log cabin - no running water, no electricity and a pot bellied stove to cook on. We caught fish in the river that GS helped to catch. gut and cook, we learned how to pan for gold - the proceeds are in 2 little bottles filled with water so you can see the specks of gold. His pride and joy. He learned what it was like to live without any facilities and how hard gold mining was - it was good fun. He also learned to play poker (could come in useful).

We didn't do the beach though we did go to Bodega Bay to whale watch - it was like Skegness on winters day! And the Hitchcock film The Birds was made there - one of my favourites.

We did go in the summer holidays but if we hadn't been able to we would have gone at a different time.

poet123

janninew wrote: »

Maybe the case where you work, but the secondary I work in all trips abroad are taken either in Feb half term or at Easter. I can't imagine taking some Year 10/11 children away for a week and the trouble they would have catching up, especially as not all go on them, so different pupils would be at different stages. What school could allow these trips to run in term time? The day trips are always taken during term time, but a visit form has to be submitted and 3 educational points have to be raised before it gets approval.

A lot do. My year 10 son has just had Thursday and Friday out of school Kayaking, and there is a four day trip mooted for next June. These are part of the GSCE PE course, but obviously they are missing other core subjects whilst they are away.

gazzak_2

well this is fuel for the fire ... ive just booked 2 weeks ... 7/12/11 - 21//12/11 ... there is no worries at the school my kids are in what so ever even tho this means that they wont be back too the new year ... this shows that schools make it up this rule as they go along and that this is not a reinforceable law ;the only criteria you have too meet is that this isnt due too financial reasons ; my nature of work was my excuse ... maybe its just the way you have worded it too the school ' legally they cant stop you ... and its better too be honest than say your kid has been off sick for 2 weeks ,,, then comes back with a tan

rachbc wrote: »

Maybe if your kids missed less school the could teach you the correct usage of too/ to...

I've just spat my entire mouthful of tea over the keyboard, Thank You. One of the best spelling put downs ever!

ash28

janninew wrote: »

Maybe the case where you work, but the secondary I work in all trips abroad are taken either in Feb half term or at Easter. I can't imagine taking some Year 10/11 children away for a week and the trouble they would have catching up, especially as not all go on them, so different pupils would be at different stages. What school could allow these trips to run in term time? The day trips are always taken during term time, but a visit form has to be submitted and 3 educational points have to be raised before it gets approval.

Ours used go on a drama trip in year 10 - to Spain in term time - they had a ball and all went to bars and went clubbing at night - we found out quite a long time later.

In fact a few years after our kids had all left the school we went on holiday to the same town the school used for the drama trips - imagine our surprise when we were in a bar and found it be virtually plastered with photos of kids from the school (covering a number of years and trips) and our own kids were there on the walls too.

No wonder they came home shattered!

I'm not sure if the school still does the trip as our youngest is almost 30 now.

Edit: And the best of it was we were with my sister and her husband, who are so rigid you'd think they had a poker up their backsides.

gregg1

onlyroz wrote: »

For those of you happy to take your kids out during term time, which of the following apply:

- Sod the rules, I'll do what I want and I don't care what attitude I instill in my children
- My child is brilliant, so it doesn't matter if I take them out of school
- My child is thick as a plank so it won't matter if I take them out of school
- All familes should be able to take holidays whenever they want, even if it means missing school, and even if it means massive disruption to the teachers and pupils
- It's not faaaaaaiiiiiirrrr, holidays during school breaks are tooooo expensive - the holiday companies should be MADE to reduce their prices, and sod the economy or those who work in the travel industry
- I would be happy to pay an extra tax to subsidise those who can't afford a holiday in August, because it's everyone's RIGHT to a cheap holiday

I can answer that - it is ALWAYS the second one !

gregg1

ash28 wrote: »

My own children had to keep journals when we went on holiday - as does our grandson - even if it's only 2 lines some days.

Holidays - depending on the type can be just as educational as school residential trips - this year we went to California with GS, one of the things we did was stay at a gold mining camp in a log cabin - no running water, no electricity and a pot bellied stove to cook on. We caught fish in the river that GS helped to catch. gut and cook, we learned how to pan for gold - the proceeds are in 2 little bottles filled with water so you can see the specks of gold. His pride and joy. He learned what it was like to live without any facilities and how hard gold mining was - it was good fun. He also learned to play poker (could come in useful).

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How fortuitous - I heard they were thinking of introducing a "Panning for Gold" univeristy course next year due to high demand:)