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Anyone had a ticket from Northern Rail?

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  • vax2002
    vax2002 Posts: 7,187 Forumite
    trolling
    AGAIN
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  • give_them_FA
    give_them_FA Posts: 2,998 Forumite
    trisontana wrote: »
    Northern Rail are the only train company that actually pursue motorists through the magistrates court. So this is not a "fake " PPC ticket but a real one. I am afraid that the only thing you can do is to plead guilty and pay whatever they are demanding. I know this seems harsh but the experts over on PePiPoo have said the same about similar NR cases.


    I confess I am not very clued up about "byelaw 14"! I did get some tickets that mentioned it, ignored them, and never heard any more about it.

    Is it one with a RK liability, or does it involve the company having to prove who the driver was?
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    vax2002 wrote: »
    trolling
    AGAIN

    Was that directed at me? If so then I am only reporting what's being said over on PePiPoo.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    give_them_FA wrote: »
    Is it one with a RK liability, or does it involve the company having to prove who the driver was?
    The former.
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    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • vax2002
    vax2002 Posts: 7,187 Forumite
    trisontana wrote: »
    Was that directed at me? If so then I am only reporting what's being said over on PePiPoo.

    Have you been smoking something ?
    Look at the post ?
    Spot anything ?

    It is our pretend to be a PPC troll
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  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    vax2002 wrote: »
    Have you been smoking something ?
    Look at the post ?
    Spot anything ?

    It is our pretend to be a PPC troll

    I don't believe they are a troll. If you care to take a look at PePiPoo you will see a couple of cases where NR have taken people to the magistrates court over parking issues. They seem to be the only TOC who do that. All the others go down the usual PPC route.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,669 Forumite
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    I don't read this as a troll either. Northern Rail have recently taken some pepipoo posters to Court or forced them to pay up before it goes in front of a Magistrate.

    There is even one on there at the moment where they are referring to the PCN as a 'parking charge', it was issued by little old Meteor and with no mention of bylaw 14 and now NR have issued a summons. Weird.
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  • ManxRed
    ManxRed Posts: 3,530 Forumite
    Northern Rail are being a trifle naughty here, but discussions are still ongoing over at Pepipoo as to how to potentially defend these.

    They appear to issue the tickets as a PPC (so if the victim pays up they pocket the dough) but then if the victim ignores and does not pay, they 'switch' to a byelaw 14 and progress via mags court. Because the legislation relating to byelaw 14 is slightly vague with regards to liability (it is potentially possible to interpret as driver or RK depending on how you read it - in other words the legislation as drafted is not brilliant) then there is a potential to fight it, however it might be expensive and no one's had the b*ll*cks to try it yet.
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  • give_them_FA
    give_them_FA Posts: 2,998 Forumite
    HO87 wrote: »
    The former.

    So if this a criminal matter, will it not be knocked out by the Human Rights Act? Can you be convicted in a criminal court over the actions of someone else over whom you had no control nor even knowledge?
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